I understand that could lead to some nasty gaming of the system though, just the first idea I thought of.

  (def homepage (page
                  (top 10)
                  (newest 5)))

  <FRAMESET rows="66%, 34%">
      <FRAME src="http://news.ycombinator.com/">
      <FRAME src="http://news.ycombinator.com/newest">
  </FRAMESET>

<FRAMESET cols="66%, 34%">

    <FRAME src="http://news.ycombinator.com/">

    <FRAME src="http://news.ycombinator.com/newest">

Makes it easier to read because Y content is usually skinny and most new screens are wide. :)

edit: but I'm splitting hairs...

Reminds me of this article -

http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The_Complicator_0x27_s_Glove...

;)

Gloves!

Still not a perfect solution as not everyone will install it - but a decent start eh?

HN Toolkit: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/25039

Install and turn on the 'Show new items at bottom of main page?' option.

Let me know if you have problems.

Can you tell me the exact URL that I should be seeing it at? I see toolkit. When I use that I see the search YC buttons etc, but when I select that option specifically, nothing happens.

I am assuming http://news.ycombinator.com/ is the main page you are referring to right?

Edit: SOLVED. http://news.ycombinator.com/news - now all is well! =)

Thanks!

Specifically, splitview got broken and a couple other little things were acting funny.

  s{
    var blacklist = GM_getValue('hndomains', '');
  }{
    var blacklist = GM_getValue('hnblacklist', '');
  }x;

  GM_setValue('hndomains', GM_getValue('hndomains', '') + ' ' + GM_getValue('hnblacklist', ''))
  GM_setValue('hnblacklist', '')

So for my personal preference, I'd probably be interested in seeing the newest stuff, and then maybe a column for 'most popular'.

I know it's unconventional, but...

One way could be to reward "early promoters", eg. give karma to the first users that up-vote a story, which later makes it to the front page or reaches a certain number of votes.

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_beauty_contest )

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=433004

Another idea is simply to display the number of new stories submitted since you last visited the New page:

  new (26) | threads | comments | leaders | jobs | submit

  new* | threads | comments | leaders | jobs | submit

The only thing I like about non-time-series sites like HN is that it just isn't in their nature to ever be something inbox-like. It's the sole saving grace of having a voting system, especially with vote-ranked threaded discussion -- it keeps it from ever being something I have to "catch up with" regularly.

Alternatively, just have an asterisk to indicate that there are new submissions you haven't checked out yet:

  new* | threads | comments | leaders | jobs | submit

Let's be real - people are going to do what's in their best interest - not what is good for the community. So, let's not count on people to vote and go to the New page. I think it's better to count on software engineering here, instead of social engineering.

(Addition: It may be better to take the two (or three) most popular stories.)

I can happily build another bot for newest stories though, if anyone would be interested...

Also I think the appropriate location to discuss this is http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=363

And pleading with them won't help, things are just averaging out. That's the key word average.

This has happened to every single great social news site I've enjoyed.

Anyone know what the next slashdot/reddit/HN is yet?

This could simply be a direct result of the change in the "new" section's S2N ratio. There's simply a lot more crap in that queue than there has been previously.

That kind of performance keeps me logged out. Can someone shed some light on why it is so slow?

http://news.ycombinator.com/rss

At least, that's how I've seen it play out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Association_of_A...