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Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by janalsncm on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:49PM (#44524231)
The natural solution would be to increase the number of teams to also accommodate people who are interested but don’t want to or are unable to dedicate their life to sports. But if schools need to cut costs, it’s tough to do.

It’s a common trend in many domains: universities, housing, jobs. An underabundance of resources means people need to gear up to fight over the things that still exist.

Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by 9rx on Thursday July 10, 2025 @04:13PM (#44525020)
Or, given the real-world constraints schools are usually up against, pick the worst participants instead of the best. Those who are skilled in a given sport are almost certainly engaged in the sport outside of school, and thus are taking away from those who are much more likely looking to learn about a sport they otherwise don't have access to.
Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by janalsncm on Thursday July 10, 2025 @06:26PM (#44526375)
Interesting/amusing thought. How do you propose to determine the worst athletes?

Maybe another approach would be to use a lottery among applicants.

Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by 9rx on Friday July 11, 2025 @09:41AM (#44532038)
> How do you propose to determine the worst athletes?

Given the aforementioned process to discover the best athletes (which, I assume, means tryouts, but the exact mechanism wasn't specified, granted), the worst athletes should be revealed in that.

Sure, there is room to game that, but:

1. Who wants to be known as a poor athlete where one is already playing at a high level outside of school?

2. Who wants to keep up the ruse of being a poor athlete throughout the year? If you are suddenly amazing at the sport after making it look like you've never seen the sport before, you won't be long for the team.

If someone who is skilled is able to play up that they are weak continuously, oh well. It need not be perfect. A best effort attempt to try and give those who don't have opportunities outside of school is good enough.

> Maybe another approach would be to use a lottery among applicants.

That seems reasonable as well.

Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by scelerat on Thursday July 10, 2025 @06:40PM (#44526496)
> natural solution would be to increase the number of teams

Reminds me of my dad (b. 1945) talking about his HS sports experience in the early ‘60s at a large (~3500) Southern California public school. Not only were there varsity, JV and frosh teams, in high-interest sports like football and basketball there were multiple teams for every grade. Competition was still high if you wanted to play at the highest level, but if you wanted to play, there was probably an option for you.

Public schools are simply not funded the same way today

Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by treis on Thursday July 10, 2025 @09:28PM (#44527558)
Per pupil spending adjusted for inflation is up significantly since 1960s.
Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by defrost on Thursday July 10, 2025 @09:33PM (#44527589)
That's total into the system divided by number of students though.

Is there any measure of how much of that reaches pupils and improves their education versus the amount sucked up by middle layers, consultants, prestige buildings, etc?

It might be similar to the US health spend .. high per capita spend, low outcomes per citizens (compared to, say, Australia) .. with a rich middle layer of providers, insurers, etc.

Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by AuryGlenz on Friday July 11, 2025 @02:28AM (#44528954)
It's more like its being sucked up by special education, ESL, etc.
Re:The Death of Partying in the USA by tenacious_tuna on Friday July 11, 2025 @02:17PM (#44535382)
...or by sports.

My HS spent millions on a completely new athletics complex. our math and reading scores were in the dirt, classrooms had 70s era carpet growing crap I don't want think about, the band had 30 year old uniforms...but we had a gorgeous basketball complex.