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Re:What killed the Linux desktop by Derbasti on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @04:11PM (#4450815)
I absolutely agree. I actually prefer the graphical shell of Windows 7 to the one of OSX Lion. But Windows does not have a Unix terminal.

And I think that is the main point here: Linux might lack design graphically, but the Linux command line is about the most beautiful thing out there. There is an abundance of elegance there is probably only rivaled by some Lisp machine.

Who knows, maybe, I will switch from OSX to Linux because of that at some point. It is certainly tempting.

Re:What killed the Linux desktop by masklinn on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @04:25PM (#4450906)
> I actually prefer the graphical shell of Windows 7 to the one of OSX Lion.

Explorer? Versus finder? That's a pretty low-hanging fruit, I can't remember ever preferring finder to explorer and I've been using OSX as my main dev machine (and Windows mostly for the game box) for 6 years now. I prefer OSX overall, but the finder still isn't a good shell.

Re:What killed the Linux desktop by Derbasti on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @04:50PM (#4451118)
I was going to leave a snarky comment with just a list of awful OSX applications here. But then I looked at a list of the applications I have installed and... Well, while many of them might be bad, their usual alternatives on Windows aren't exactly better.

But Finder really is bad. Then again, I wish ANY other OS would implement the column view Finder has. As bad as Finder is, column view is awesome.

But many of the great things on the Mac have been subverted in the last few years.

Have you tried dragging a proxy icon from the title bar of an OSX application to an external disk lately? It creates a new alias there. An ALIAS. On an external disk.

Or HFS+, which still has a global lock whenever ANY application wants to write to the file system. A GLOBAL lock. No other program may access the hard drive while one is writing. Insanity!.

Or the complete lack of uninstallers. I am continuously baffled by that. How can you have a "modern" operating system without uninstallers?

Desktop apps are really fine though. It's just the foundation that is getting rusty. Not a good thing, that.

Re:What killed the Linux desktop by untog on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @04:55PM (#4451164)
Or the complete lack of uninstallers. I am continuously baffled by that. How can you have a "modern" operating system without uninstallers?

Well, the dream is that you don't need one. Drag the app from Applications to the Trash and... ta-da! Of course, that never happens with anything more complex than the most superficial of apps.

Re:What killed the Linux desktop by masklinn on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @05:18PM (#4451357)
> Of course, that never happens with anything more complex than the most superficial of apps.

Well all of my applications are superficial apparently, because apart from Little Snitch I can't think of one I'll need an uninstaller for. And LS is a special case.

Re:What killed the Linux desktop by andybak on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @07:27PM (#4452022)
I'd say at least 25% of the OS X apps I try have an installer and therefore require an uninstaller that often doesn't exist. Usually someone on a forum somewhere lists a sequence of terminal commands required to remove an app and it's background services. If I'm lucky.

Happened to me several times in the last two weeks alone. I vaguely remember it took me ages to get VMWare or similar off my machine.

Re:What killed the Linux desktop by icebraining on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @05:48PM (#4451539)
Then again, I wish ANY other OS would implement the column view Finder has. As bad as Finder is, column view is awesome.

Hmm, Wikipedia lists a bunch of file managers with column view support[1]. Here's it in Konqueror: http://www.konqueror.org/pics/konqueror-file-manager-col-vie...

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_managers#Ma...

Re:What killed the Linux desktop by hollerith on Thursday August 30, 2012 @01:10PM (#4455628)
>Or HFS+, which still has a global lock whenever ANY application wants to write to the file system. A GLOBAL lock. No other program may access the hard drive while one is writing. Insanity!.

Could that be the reason I had to disable Spotlight's indexer to prevent bouts of extreme unresponsiveness on my 2011 Mac mini?

Re:What killed the Linux desktop by hollerith on Friday August 31, 2012 @09:50AM (#4459672)
>I wish ANY other OS would implement the column view Finder has. As bad as Finder is, column view is awesome.

Sometimes referred to as "Miller columns" BTW.