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Re:ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after ... by aydyn on Friday July 04, 2025 @02:03PM (#44466625)
I think this conversation is very clearly people speaking past each other.

Let's reset.

They are asking for a solution that is realistic. Something that is happening right now is, by definition, a realistic outcome. "Let everyone stay" is not a realistic solution for obvious reasons.

Re:ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after ... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Friday July 04, 2025 @02:27PM (#44466808)
> They are asking for a solution that is realistic.

Indeed, they asked for “a good faith solution to the problem other than just letting them all stay here forever” and I explicitly said I did not have this. I also see them and you saying “someone” should come up with a solution and, failing to find one yourselves, say deportation without any court hearing is acceptable. I’ve outlined my reasons for why that is dangerous and unacceptable and you just throw up your hands and say it must happen because it’s happening.

(Did you notice how you went from “solution” to “outcome” and then back to “solution”? People are decrying the “outcome” because it’s a shit “solution”. Yes, it seems we are talking past each other.)

Re:ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after ... by aydyn on Friday July 04, 2025 @05:19PM (#44467962)
> Did you notice how you went from “solution” to “outcome” and then back to “solution”?

Thats perhaps a bad habit of mine, finding synonyms as I dont like to repeat the same word in the next sentence.

> Indeed, they asked for “a good faith solution to the problem other than just letting them all stay here forever” and I explicitly said I did not have this. I also see them and you saying “someone” should come up with a solution and, failing to find one yourselves, say deportation without any court hearing is acceptable.

So on the other side "just letting them all stay here forever" is also an unacceptable solution.

So what then? There's no acceptable solution we are just screwed?

Re:ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after ... by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF on Friday July 04, 2025 @11:50PM (#44469966)
> So on the other side "just letting them all stay here forever" is also an unacceptable solution.

This is a false dichotomy and a false equivalence. I’ll let you figure out what that means.

Re:ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after ... by aydyn on Saturday July 05, 2025 @01:21PM (#44474146)
no need I know what those things mean.
Re:ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after ... by ImPostingOnHN on Saturday July 05, 2025 @10:47AM (#44473149)
If "just letting them all stay here forever" is an unacceptable solution, then "send millions of people who are here legally or illegally to gulags forever" is an even less acceptable one.