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Re:I want to leave tech: what do I do? by pydry on Friday July 04, 2025 @10:54AM (#44465097)
one of the reasons I find it hard to leave a high paying job is because "underpaid" has always been the best predictor of job toxicity.

In general (with a few exceptions like finance that are generally up front about what they are), the chillest, sanest jobs with the most accomodating environments tended to pay the best and vice versa.

I also have too many friends who tried sacrificing pay for better working conditions and more meaningful work and ended up bitter because they were sold a hollow dream.

Re:I want to leave tech: what do I do? by parpfish on Friday July 04, 2025 @11:15AM (#44465270)
A few years back I left “big tech” for a much lower paying tech-ish job that had a meaningful mission.

I was fine having a lower paying job, but what I didn’t expect was that the lower pay meant that the skill level for my colleagues was also much much lower. Years of the “Dead Sea effect” [0] had turned it into an environment where the blind were leading the blind and they weren’t even aware of how bad things were.

So high pay also means “better coworkers”

[0] http://brucefwebster.com/2008/04/11/the-wetware-crisis-the-d...

Re:I want to leave tech: what do I do? by karaterobot on Friday July 04, 2025 @11:43AM (#44465510)
> one of the reasons I find it hard to leave a high paying job is because "underpaid" has always been the best predictor of job toxicity.

Being 'underpaid' is different than being paid less, though. Describing a job as underpaid is, almost by definition, assuming a company is exploiting its workforce. It's not hard to believe such a company would also be a toxic environment in other ways. But if two companies pay different amounts, but they're both paying a fair salary, it doesn't necessarily imply anything about the company that pays less.

Re:I want to leave tech: what do I do? by hamandcheese on Friday July 04, 2025 @11:00AM (#44465132)
Strong agree. It takes very little effort to pay someone a few more dollars, whereas all the other intangibles are a lot harder to offer. So it is exceptionally rare to find one without the other.