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Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by mindcrime on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @01:29PM (#4444848)
I've now stopped accumulating stuff. Except books—but books are different. Books are more like a fluid than individual objects. It's not especially inconvenient to own several thousand books, whereas if you owned several thousand random possessions you'd be a local celebrity. But except for books, I now actively avoid stuff.

I don't know... I own on the order of thousands of books (don't have an exact number, can't be bothered to count / catalog them all), and it can be fairly inconvenient, depending on the circumstances. In my own case, I own more books than can comfortably fit in my apartment, which means one of the biggest motivations I have to rent a bigger apartment, or buy a house, is to suit my books. And since my books have long since overflowed the amount of shelf space I have available, they wind up stacked up around the place, which gives my place a cluttered feel.

Moving is also a bitch with all these books. Books can be friggin' heavy.

That said, I still mostly agree with pg that books are different from random "stuff." I treasure my books (well, ok, maybe not that copy of "OLE DB Programming in C++") and figure having too many books is far less severe a sin than, say, a crack cocaine addiction.

Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by geebee on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @02:03PM (#4445011)
I agree with you about the burden of moving books. In that sense, they do carry the baggage of "stuff".

However, I don't put books in to the same category of visual clutter. When I look at a messy room or garage, overflowing with stuff, it makes me unhappy. Even after it's better organized, I still feel a little unhappy realizing that so much storage space is taken up by stuff.

Books do feel different. I enjoy seeing them, the sight of a lot of books is actually a little relaxing. They don't stress me out the way other kinds of stuff does.

Sounds like you have a lot of books stacked around... I could see how it might get to the point where you're feeling cluttered. And the main reason I like getting books from the library isn't so much that I don't have to pay for it but that I don't have to find a place to put it after I'm done.

Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by jseliger on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @01:34PM (#4444871)
I own more books than can comfortably fit in my apartment, which means one of the biggest motivations I have to rent a bigger apartment

I know the feeling, but a friend showed me the Container Store's "Elfa" shelving, which is pretty easy to install and provides seven to eight individual shelves in a particular space.

You can see a picture of my setup midway down this page: https://jseliger.wordpress.com/2012/01/10/january-2012-links...

Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by mindcrime on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @01:40PM (#4444911)
Cool stuff. My problem is, I don't really have more wall space for shelves. The two remaining walls that would make good candidates for shelving, I use for hanging whiteboards. :-)

That said, I could get rid of some of these books... especially older tech books that aren't relevant, either because they're plain out of date, or because I've made a conscious decision to move away from that technology, or both. For example, I have a lot of older books on various Microsoft / Windows technologies like COM, DCOM, ADO, OLE, etc. Frankly, it's very unlikely I'll ever use that stuff again.

Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by Retric on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @01:59PM (#4444994)
I would suggest dumping all but the very best tech books and buying them again if you actually need them. Sure, they cost's 50$ a pop, but for most tech people that's not really an issue.

http://my.safaribooksonline.com/

Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by mindcrime on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @02:43PM (#4445192)
Yeah, good point. And I am (slowly) starting to transition more and more to e-books. I by dead-tree tech books much less often than I did back in, say, 2001.

> http://my.safaribooksonline.com

I'm definitely thinking about signing up for a Safari subscription soon.

Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by johncch on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @03:12PM (#4445350)
May I ask what whiteboards are you hanging?
Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by mindcrime on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @03:22PM (#4445411)
May I ask what whiteboards are you hanging?

Just generic ones from Office Depot. I have four big ones (3x6 or so?) and one smaller one hanging in my living room (which is more of an office for the startup right now, than it is a "living room").

Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by johncch on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @03:38PM (#4445501)
Thank you. I have whiteyboard decals on my wall and it isn't working out so well, so I'm kinda thinking of switching to something else.
Re:The Untouchable Economy: Why Americans Are Turning Agains... by stephengillie on Tuesday August 28, 2012 @02:43PM (#4445196)
I don't hold books in any special regard anymore. Now, they're just large objects that hold data less efficiently than other solutions. I can keep the text on a HDD or flash drive somewhere instead.

They're large, heavy, cumbersome objects. They're just more objects to be packed, carried, and worried about.