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Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by lblume on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @07:59AM (#44432999)
I have uploaded entire books to the latest Gemini and had the model reliably accurately answer specific questions requiring knowledge of multiple chapters.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by FeepingCreature on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @08:39AM (#44433333)
I think it works for info but not so well for instructions/guidance. That's why the standard advice is instructions at the start and repeated at the end.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by raybb on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @01:24PM (#44436138)
I wonder if the serial-position effect is happening with LLMs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial-position_effect

Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by potatolicious on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @01:54PM (#44436430)
Something like it definitely, though not exactly. We also know that recall improves with proximate position of bits within the context.

Adherence to context is lossy in a way reminiscent of human behavior but also different in crucial ways.

Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by grogenaut on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @03:13PM (#44437122)
Or under the covers are just putting all the text you fed at into a rag database and doing embedding search define route and snippets and answer your questions when asked directly. Which is the difference approach than recalling instructions
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by fwn on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @08:42AM (#44433350)
That’s pretty typical, though not especially reliable. (Allthough in my experience, Gemini currently performs slightly better than ChatGPT for my case.)

In one repetitive workflow, for example, I process long email threads, large Markdown tables (which is a format from hell), stakeholder maps, and broader project context, such as roles, mailing lists, and related metadata. I feed all of that into the LLM, which determines the necessary response type (out of a given set), selects appropriate email templates, drafts replies, generates documentation, and outputs a JSON table.

It gets it right on the first try about 75% of the time, easily saving me an hour a day - often more.

Unfortunately, 10% of the time, the responses appear excellent but are fundamentally flawed in some way. Just so it doesn't get boring.

Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by simonw on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @09:10AM (#44433568)
Try reformatting the data from the markdown table into a JSON or YAML list of objects. You may find that repeating the keys for every value gives you more reliable results.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by fwn on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @06:25AM (#44441987)
Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll start benchmarking my current md table setup against one using YAML. It's apparently slightly less verbose than JSON.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by v3ss0n on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @03:55PM (#44437465)
Gemini does a lot better at long context.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by HSO on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @10:25AM (#44434210)
I wonder if those books were already in the training set, i.e. in a way "hardcoded" before you even steered the model that way.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by jimbokun on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @12:28PM (#44435546)
Should be easy to test: ask the question without the book in the context window, ask again with the book in the context window.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by v3ss0n on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @03:53PM (#44437454)
Try multi-turn and agent-to-agent , it will breakdown , but Gemini is a lot better at larger context.
Re:The new skill in AI is not prompting, it's context engine... by yahoozoo on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @11:06PM (#44439916)
Mind if I ask how you’re doing this? I have uploaded short stories of <40,000 words in .txt format and when I ask questions like “How many chapters are there?” or “What is the last sentence in the story?” it gets it wrong. If I paste a chapter or two at a time then ask, it works better, but that’s tedious…