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Re:Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices by jeffbee on Monday June 30, 2025 @04:28PM (#44427490)
The "complex labyrinth" is only reinforcing the impression that you and the author of that brief are both cranks. "Email" is the top setting under "Default Apps". My iPhone doesn't even offer Apple's Mail app in that screen, probably because I deleted it, which also was not labyrinthine but actually quite trivial.
Re:Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices by 6510 on Monday June 30, 2025 @07:47PM (#44429137)
home screen > settings > default apps > email

Easy if you know where to look. If you end up in the wrong sub menu you might simply search the web for instructions.

Apple provides web pages where they explain how to use the iphone. There is a section called "mail" under "apps" that shows up in the search results. It really wants me to read the help in dutch, the "apps > mail" section has 14 pages that don't talk about changing the default app, in stead they explain how to use the various features of their own mail app (that is also configured by default)

I don't get why the help pages need a different menu structure.

One has to go to "personalize your iphone" which has 18 pages, changing default apps is towards the end.

Searching the Dutch help website for "mail" I get only 3 unhelpful search results. If i change it to US English it immediately redirects to Dutch again. lol?

Using the "English" for Latin America and the Caribbean works. There I get 5 pages worth of results. Changing the default app is on page 3.

Not impossible but it is not a simple prompt on launch of the app "Banana mail is not currently your default email client. Do you want to set Banana mail as your default app for sending email?"

I'm quite dense of course, if they are going to be like that I will NEVER create an email client for this platform.

The web and their TOS is full of good reasons to never create an app for iphone.

In a laps of sanity I created a pwa one time. I've explained to exactly one user how to add the option to add a web app to the home screen to the menu so that they can add a web app to the home screen. It was a really hard sell and it took a long time.

I of course had to laugh at myself for acting against my better judgement.

Imagine someone made a web app email client and tried to compete with the build in client. Then in the middle of the struggle apple jokes about discontinuing PWA.

Seems a pretty level playing field?

Re:Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices by efitz on Monday June 30, 2025 @09:16PM (#44429648)
> Easy if you know where to look. If you end up in the wrong sub menu you might simply search the web for instructions.

Actually, at the very top of the home page of the settings app is a search bar. If you type in anything reasonable (default, email, mail) then one of the first 2-3 results will be “default apps” or “default email”.

Re:Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices by p2detar on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @03:29AM (#44431486)
8/10 people in my family circle do not know this bar exists. I know it’s not necessarily Apple‘s fault, but not everyone is a tech-proficient.
Re:Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices by BugsJustFindMe on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @08:42AM (#44433348)
Maybe 8/10 people in your family circle would benefit from reading the published user guide for their device. That doesn't take technological proficiency, just reading.
Re:Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices by anton-c on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @09:50AM (#44443722)
Maybe the design is terrible, that's an option too.
Re:Proton joins suit against Apple for predatory practices by jeffbee on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @08:28AM (#44433229)
> Not impossible but it is not a simple prompt on launch of the app "Banana mail is not currently your default email client. Do you want to set Banana mail as your default app for sending email?"

This is what happens when you install Gmail, for example. You're both under and over-thinking this.