Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters

Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by bArray on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:13PM (#44424972)

I wish they would stop with snap, snaps have been nothing but a pain. Ubuntu keep pushing half-baked ideas into the wild - who asked for a system that would randomly kill apps without warning? It's like the Rust SSH thing, they are going to make it the default whether you like it or not, even though they know it is not 1:1 and probably never will be.

I'm currently having an issue with Firefox where it will not stop crashing all of the time, even whilst using Hackernews. Not a RAM or CPU issue, just buggy software pushed through a "move fast and break things" attitude.

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by loloquwowndueo on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:15PM (#44424992)

Google “remove snaps Ubuntu 24.04” (or whichever version you’re on). I did so, nuked all snaps and replaced Firefox with an upstream Deb repository. Everything’s working fine so far.

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by somanyphotons on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:23PM (#44425089)

May as well run Debian at that point

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by loloquwowndueo on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:31PM (#44425155)

I’ve found that Ubuntu comes with more things set up out of the box than Debian, so it gets me up and running faster. Or could look into Mint. Sure, to each their own - as long as it has no snaps!

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by stebian_dable on Monday June 30, 2025 @01:04PM (#44425582)

Try Mx Linux :)

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by blacksmith_tb on Monday June 30, 2025 @02:22PM (#44426324)

On a server, 100% but on a desktop/laptop, Ubuntu does bring some conveniences (though Pop_OS! improves that balance, the good stuff minus the over-dependence on snaps).

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by pepa65 on Monday June 30, 2025 @10:13PM (#44429955)

Or Linux Mint..! :-D

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by bokchoi on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:55PM (#44425458)

Or run PopOS which is Ubuntu without the snaps.

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by simion314 on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:21PM (#44425073)

I like using snap on my LTS servers, I can test new CLI tools there and see if the new version has soem fixes that I need or not, if the snap works better I can use it without messing around with installing some PPA to update the tool and it's dependencies.

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by Jnr on Monday June 30, 2025 @01:03PM (#44425574)

What I dislike about snaps is the performance. Somehow they have managed to make them practically unusable on computers older than a few years.

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by msgodel on Monday June 30, 2025 @01:30PM (#44425867)

It's like they saw RedHat and though "ah the reason people complain about that is because they're just not going fast enough."

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Re:Ubuntu: Introducing Debcrafters by rbanffy on Monday June 30, 2025 @03:21PM (#44426885)

> snaps have been nothing but a pain.

I remember being vocal about it being a bad solution to a problem nobody had while I was working for Canonical. That's probably one of the reasons it seems unlikely they'll ever hire me again.

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