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Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by pxc on Monday June 30, 2025 @09:56AM (#44423332)
It's kind of amusing to me how some PC gamers act superior to console gamers because PC gamers run their games on a flexible, customizable, general-purpose machine that the user controls rather than an appliance... and then immediately hand over control to half a dozen companies at a level that reduces "their" PC to a vendor-owned appliance anyway.

If you are a PC gamer and run anti-cheat software like this, you should probably think of your gaming PC as a much more powerful and much jankier console, and avoid running or storing anything on it other than your games.

Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by MisterTea on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:20PM (#44425057)
> and then immediately hand over control to half a dozen companies at a level that reduces "their" PC to a vendor-owned appliance anyway.

This was not always the case.

Also, the publishers lie about how invasive their software is - see the Sony rootkit fiasco.

Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by pxc on Monday June 30, 2025 @01:24PM (#44425795)
> This was not always the case.

I know. :(

(Though, unfortunately, the SecuROM fiasco shows that this has sadly been going on a long time.)

I say it's amusing, but it's a bitter thing for me, too.

Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by ragequittah on Monday June 30, 2025 @02:54PM (#44426618)
You just dual boot. Windows is a joke itself even without the anticheat shenanigans so I use it like a toy. Any real work gets done in Luks encrypted Linux inaccessible to the Chinese company with a rootkit in my windows. Hopefully.
Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by endmin on Monday June 30, 2025 @07:46PM (#44429133)
Sony is Japanese
Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by pxc on Wednesday July 02, 2025 @04:00PM (#44448152)
Maybe they're thinking of Riot Games' parent company, Tencent.
Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by whoisyc on Monday June 30, 2025 @03:55PM (#44427165)
What makes you think the PC gamers who do the PC master race things are the same people as the ones playing games with invasive anticheat? Just because they both game on PCs? Your assumption tells more about yourself than those mythical “PC gamers”, whoever they are.
Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by pxc on Monday June 30, 2025 @05:05PM (#44427866)
Maybe you skipped over the word "some" in your reading of my comment, or there's other ambiguity in the scope of a subordinate clause that you interpreted uncharitably, but I don't actually assert (or assume) that all or only PCMR types run games that require such rootkits.
Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by hoseja on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @03:55AM (#44431639)
> and then immediately hand over control to half a dozen companies at a level that reduces "their" PC to a vendor-owned appliance anyway.

Only when you want to play mainstream anticheat slop.

Re:Anticheat Update Tracking by pxc on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @01:25PM (#44436152)
A lot of people do! That's what makes it mainstream.

Even though it's not been part of my life for a long time, I would still prefer a world where people can participate in trendy multiplayer games without subjecting themselves to such corporate malware.

But I agree, many games are better and lack this, and a lot of games that rely on nasty anti-cheat software succeed more based on network effects than on intrinsic excellence.

If you game for games' sakes, it's not too painful to avoid games so encumbered, or to cut these from your gaming diet. If you game as a ritual to stay in touch with distant friends, you will probably experience more pressure towards the rootkit-encumbered slop.