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Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by darth_avocado on Sunday June 29, 2025 @10:47PM (#44418753)
Cars are a necessity in pretty much most of the country. Even in areas with good public transit, people who are most likely to go into debt to buy a car are also more likely to live further away from public transit and commute for work. Outside of New York, I can’t think of another city where living without a car is really an option.
Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by SoftTalker on Sunday June 29, 2025 @11:16PM (#44418952)
Chicago. Probably a few other big cities.
Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by wombatpm on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:50AM (#44419505)
Yes, but you have to live in the City. The suburbs are impossible without a car.
Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by SoftTalker on Monday June 30, 2025 @04:14PM (#44427344)
Well, around Chicago some of the smaller suburbs have a nice little downtown and are on a train line into the city. If you lived near that you might get by just using online shopping and uber if you occasionally needed to go somewhere. There is bus service too but it's not that good.

But in general, and in the larger suburbs yes you would be pretty inconvenienced without a car. But that is true of suburbs everywhere.

Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by tptacek on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @03:12AM (#44431382)
You'd be fine in basically all of the inner-ring suburbs except maybe on the south side.
Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by tacticalturtle on Sunday June 29, 2025 @11:36PM (#44419084)
Boston. DC. Chicago.

I’ve heard Philly and SF as well, but have never been.

Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by darth_avocado on Sunday June 29, 2025 @11:42PM (#44419129)
Bay Area (including SF) public transportation is generally terrible, definitely not at all a great option for people who can’t even live in SF but have to commute to SF because of how expensive it is.
Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by throwaway2037 on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:26AM (#44419365)
San Francisco is in the top 10 cities in the US for public transit usage. You can see the stats here: https://www.sf.gov/data--vision-zero-benchmarking-commute-me...

If you are forced to commute into SF for your job, then make living close to BART a top priority. (Many years ago, I met many people who suffered through that daily commute, but refused to make living near BART a priority. It was dumb to watch.) BART is a miracle train system (hybrid commuter rail/metro/subway), even if the coverage isn't great.

Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by darth_avocado on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:45AM (#44419476)
Just because it’s in top 10 within the country doesn’t mean it is great and that people don’t need to rely on cars most of the times. “Just live near BART” is a laughable proposition since half the BART stations outside of SF do not have enough housing around them and the ones that do, have high density luxury apartments that aren’t exactly affordable to people outside tech and other high paying careers. Then there’s the question of “do I also work near BART?”, “buy groceries near bus stations?” Or “go to the hospital only near public transit?”. Answer to all of those questions is “No and I still need a car”.
Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by amluto on Monday June 30, 2025 @09:35AM (#44423115)
Or Caltrain. The new electrified Caltrain is a massive improvement: it runs at least every half hour all day, every day. I don’t know whether it was intentional on the part of the agency, but they stumbled upon the obvious phenomenon that many people will not use a transit system that runs too infrequently and that, conversely, if you have infrequent trains with low ridership, your ridership might return if you increase frequency.
Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by throwaway2037 on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @12:04AM (#44430492)
Most of the people I knew lived in East Bay, but you raise a great point! The peninsula also has insufferable car traffic, but can be avoided during daily commutes by carefully planning your home around Caltrain.
Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by leviathant on Monday June 30, 2025 @12:44AM (#44419473)
Philly's transit access can be hit or miss, but when transit lines up, it's transformative. I moved from central PA to a Philadelphia suburb in 2006, a three minute walk to a regional rail station. It was an hour fifteen into the city (most of the time), and I'll take 1:15 on the train over 0:45 of driving every time. After a few months of figuring things out, we dropped from two cars to one.

Now I own a rowhome in the historic district of the city, we're opening the first floor as a museum within the next year, and I walk everywhere. All forms of transit (bus, trolley, trackless trolley, subway, light rapid transit, train, ferry) take contactless payment (finally) and these days, rideshare fills in the gaps.

Wages are higher in the suburbs, but I can get to a sizable international airport in 15 minutes by car, to the Amtrak station in 20 minutes via $3 subway, and I can walk to grocery/hardware/bakery as well as bars/restaurants/galleries/venues/museums/etc.

A car used to be a very, very important part of my life, and now it's more of a luxurious convenience.

Re:Why the $25,000 car is going extinct by selimthegrim on Monday June 30, 2025 @08:13AM (#44422302)
New Orleans.