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Re:Show HN: We moved from AWS to Hetzner, saved 90%, kept IS... by Elinvynia on Saturday June 21, 2025 @08:31AM (#44337077)
70k? Just hire in Poland/Czechia/Slovakia for 50% off!

Unless by Europe you mean the Apple feature availability special of UK/Germany/France/Spain/Italy

Re:Show HN: We moved from AWS to Hetzner, saved 90%, kept IS... by debugnik on Saturday June 21, 2025 @10:28AM (#44337873)
Spain and Italy are closer to the Poland bracket than the UK/Germany one, possibly even lower for some roles.
Re:Show HN: We moved from AWS to Hetzner, saved 90%, kept IS... by renw0rp on Saturday June 21, 2025 @08:47AM (#44337167)
My colleagues were talking about salaries in the range of $40-60k... About 8-10 years ago. And I don't think it got any cheaper
Re:Show HN: We moved from AWS to Hetzner, saved 90%, kept IS... by mbmjertan on Saturday June 21, 2025 @09:19AM (#44337393)
Still, it’s highly location-dependent, and mileage varies drastically between countries.

I’m an SWE with a background in maths and CS in Croatia, and my annual comp is less than what you claim here. Not drastically, but comparing my comp to the rest of the EU it’s disappointing, although I am very well paid compared to my fellow citizens. My SRE/devops friends are in a similar situation.

I am always surprised to see such a lack of understanding of economic differences between countries. Looking through Indeed, a McDonald’s manager in the US makes noticeably more than anyone in software in southeast Europe.

Re:Show HN: We moved from AWS to Hetzner, saved 90%, kept IS... by sksjvsla on Monday June 23, 2025 @06:48AM (#44354301)
As I wrote elsewhere in this thread:

Being able to stay compliant and protect revenue is worth far more than quibbling over which cloud costs a little less or much a monthly salary for an employee is in various countries.

The real ratio to look at is cloud spend vs. the revenue.

For me, switching from AWS to European providers wasn’t just about saving on cloud bills (though that was a nice bonus). It was about reducing risk and enabling revenue. Relying on U.S. hyperscalers in Europe is becoming too risky — what happens if Safe Harbor doesn’t get renewed? Or if Schrems III (or whatever comes next) finally forces regulators to act?

If you want to win big enterprise and governmental deals, Then you got to do whatever it takes and being compliant and in charge is a huge part of that.

Re:Show HN: We moved from AWS to Hetzner, saved 90%, kept IS... by lossolo on Saturday June 21, 2025 @11:18AM (#44338224)
You won’t find anyone competent for that kind of money there.
Re:Show HN: We moved from AWS to Hetzner, saved 90%, kept IS... by ponector on Saturday June 21, 2025 @06:39PM (#44341257)
Only if you want to hire students. Experienced senior engineers have pretty much the same 70k+ price tag in Poland.
Re:Show HN: We moved from AWS to Hetzner, saved 90%, kept IS... by sandos on Monday June 23, 2025 @05:41AM (#44353924)
When I got hired by a very big conglomerate here in Sweden, he said Sweden and Poland are amongts the cheapest in Europe for developer salaries, and I would think devops will be close.

You can easily find a decent devops here (not Google-level, no) for much less than 70k I would say, especially if theyre under 30 or so.