I don't know, with that argument you can argue that everything is dependent on everything, for instance, the EU automobile industry is hugely dependent on materials and chips from all over the world including US and thus real independence is a pipe dream.

This is one of the reasons we were wondering if the US can switch off our fighter jets. The ones we own, brought from the US.

The US clearly state that extraterritoriality is fine with them. Depending on the company, one gag order is enough to sabotage a whole company.

Of course you know, the US government can use many methods to enforce their demand, it makes no sense to use an Amazon alternative to Amazon, it's such a nonsense to join a conversation about migrating away from Amazon suggesting that.

> I don't know, with that argument you can argue that everything is dependent on everything

It is. And China have been the only ones intelligent enough to have understood this very long ago. They also show that while entire independence on their scale may be a pipe dream, getting close to it is feasible.

But it will check boxes on compliance checklist.

Not on the “political concerns” checklist which is getting more and more important

It's not really the brand that's the problem.

If Amazon partnered with an actually independent European company, provided the software and training, and the independent company set it up and ran it; in case of dispute, Amazon could pull the branding and future software updates, but they wouldn't be able to access customer data without consent and assistance of the other company and the other company would be unlikely to provide that for requests that were contrary to European law. It would still be branded AWS for Europe, and nobody would doubt its independence.

This way, where it's all subsidiaries of Amazon can't be trusted though.

I can guarantee that if you read your comment with Amazon substituted for Huawei, you'd object against the okayness of that arrangement. Same thing.