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Re:JavaScript broke the web (and called it progress) by pyman on Friday June 20, 2025 @07:20AM (#44326684)
We need to be honest about this. JavaScript created loads of jobs, helped people buy houses and raise families. That's real impact, and I respect that. But I can't help wondering: did we choose it because it was the best tool, or just the least terrible one that was easy enough to learn?

Back then, choosing JavaScript felt like choosing simplicity. You didn't need to be a computer scientist to build something with js. But maybe that simplicity was was a long-term trap. It's like we all joined a party because the entrance was free, but no one told us each drink would cost a week's salary. Why bother, we're not the ones paying the bill right?

Re:JavaScript broke the web (and called it progress) by austin-cheney on Friday June 20, 2025 @07:45AM (#44326808)
JavaScript employment always felt like a spoons versus shovels type story.

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/milton-friedman-shovels-vs-sp...

If you cannot do the job without things like React, Angular, or jquery you may not be qualified to write that code. On a bigger level if you cannot create an original application from scratch you aren’t a senior developer and if you don’t measure things you aren’t an engineer.

Nearly every other professional line of work has solved for this with some combination of licensing and/or broker/agent model. Developers tend to be scared shitless of industrial baselines of qualification assessments.

Again, I am saying all this as someone who wrote JavaScript for employment for 15 years and still love writing in the language.

Re:JavaScript broke the web (and called it progress) by nchmy on Saturday June 21, 2025 @10:10AM (#44337743)
Would it be a good thing if a million unemployed devs were employed to just dig a big hole? Or, worse, cut down forests with axes?

Job creation for the sake of it isn't a good thing. What matters is whether it creates actual value, and does so efficiently.

The thrust of this, and many similar articles, is that it JS frameworks were largely a very inefficient, ineffective solution to a nonexistent problem.

The fact that they're ALL now SSR-first - without the robust and comprehensive functionality of longstanding ssr frameworks, cms etc - proves this.