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Re:Guess I'm a Rationalist Now by nyeah on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:46PM (#44322393)
Let's read the thread: "There has to be (or ought to be) a name for this kind of epistemological fallacy, where in pursuit of truth, the pursuit of logical sophistication and soundness between starting assumptions (or first principles) and conclusions becomes functionally way more important than carefully evaluating and thoughtfully choosing the right starting assumptions (and being willing to change them when they are found to be inconsistent with sound observation and interpretation)."

Can people suffer from that impairment? Is that possible? If not, please explain how wrong assumptions can be eliminated without actively looking for them. If the impairment is real, what would you call its victims? Pick your own terminology.

Re:Guess I'm a Rationalist Now by TimTheTinker on Thursday June 19, 2025 @05:28PM (#44322682)
Name calling may be helpful in some contexts, but I doubt it's persuasive to the people in question.
Re:Guess I'm a Rationalist Now by gopher_space on Thursday June 19, 2025 @08:45PM (#44323836)
I think a huge part of the subtext to this conversation is that nothing is persuasive to the people in question. How many people in this thread have come down off the mountain to explain a point of view that's just bouncing off some dude who's never needed to develop a feedback loop for his thinking?

Calling someone a dumbass in this situation is a kindness, because the assumption is that they're capable of not being one with a little self-reflection.

Re:Guess I'm a Rationalist Now by comp_throw7 on Friday June 20, 2025 @03:10AM (#44325393)
> Calling someone a dumbass in this situation is a kindness

First they laugh...

Re:Guess I'm a Rationalist Now by TimTheTinker on Saturday June 28, 2025 @02:17PM (#44406890)
Kindness means you're seeking the good of another -- it's noticing the needs of others and prioritizing their well-being.

I can't see how insulting someone pursues their well-being in any way.