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Re:Guess I'm a Rationalist Now by notahacker on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:00PM (#44322026)
The confluence of Bay Area rationalism and academic philosophy means a lot of other EA space is given to discussing hypotheticals in longwinded forum posts, blogs and papers. Some of those are well-trod utilitarian debates, others take it towards uniquely EA arguments like asserting that given that there could be as many as 10^31 future humans, essentially anything which claims to reduce existential risk - no matter how implausible the mechanism - has higher expected value than doing stuff that would certainly save human lives. An apparently completely unironic forum argument asked their fellow EAs to consider the possibility that given various heroic assumptions, the sum total of the suffering caused to mosquitos by anti-malaria nets might in fact be larger than the suffering caused by malaria they prevent.

The newsletter is of course far more to the point than that, but even then you'll notice half of it is devoted to understanding the emotional state and intentions of LLMs...

It is of course entirely possible to identify as an "Effective Altruist" whilst making larger-than-averaged donations to charities with rigorous efficacy metrics and otherwise being completely normal, but that's not the centre of EA debate....

Re:Guess I'm a Rationalist Now by noname120 on Friday June 20, 2025 @05:55AM (#44326169)
> that's not the centre of EA debate or culture....

EAs gave $1,886,513,058 through GiveWell[1], and there is 0 AI stuff in there (you can search in the linked Airtable spreadsheet).

There is also a whole movement for doing a lifetime commitment to give 10% of your earnings to charity. 9,880 people took the pledge so far[2].

[1] https://airtable.com/appGuFtOIb1eodoBu/shr1EzngorAlEzziP/tbl...

[2] https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/pledge

Re:Guess I'm a Rationalist Now by notahacker on Friday June 20, 2025 @05:06PM (#44332102)
Sure, but I'd say that the philosophical musings of EA's leadership, events, university outreach centres, and official forum were more representative of "the centre of EA debate or culture" than pledge signatories, even though I've got wayyy more time for stuff like the Giving Pledge.

GiveWell continues to plow its own rigorous international development-focused furrow, but it's cofounder, once noted for calling out everyone else for lack of rigour in their evidence base, has moved on to fluffy essays about how this is probably "the most important century" because it's either AI armageddon or maybe his wife's $61B startup will save us all...