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Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by MichaelThatsIt on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @05:21PM (#44313380)
This is a project that had been eating away at me for a bit, sitting in the back of my mind.

It's a computer that fit's perfectly underneath an Apple Magic Keyboard, and has a compartment to store peripherals like a dongle or small mouse. It has no display, instead opting for XR display glasses.

The internals are the main board, cooler, and battery from a Steam Deck OLED. I bought the parts separately rather than gutting a perfectly good one.

The link is to the CAD files. I decided to open source it as I explore building a better one.

Feel free to jump straight to that, here's the origin story for anyone interested:

I started using the XREAL glasses a few months ago. they're great, easily my favorite "XR" product. It's built around the one killer app of XR, a virtual display. shedding all non-essential hardware into a small, lightweight package.

but I hate the redundancy. Whatever device I'm using it with, the built in screen goes unused. In parallel, I've also found myself extremely disappointed in each product calling itself a "spatial computer" despite being nothing but an overweight iPad for your face.

I wanted a real computer designed to be used with these glasses, and in the smallest package I could possibly achieve.

So I grabbed an actual iPad, downloaded Shapr3D and got to work. My iteration process involved jumping back and forth between my iPad and a 3D printer. I went through roughly 15 failed iterations getting the screw mounts, airflow, and ergonomics just right.

The final result is what I believe to be a true spatial computer. I've been daily driving and I'm pretty happy with the experience. It's currently running Ubuntu 24, but I may switch back to Steam OS, given it's better optimized for the hardware.

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by ezschemi on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @08:19PM (#44314370)
Thank you very much for sharing the files and your experience! I just got my first XR glasses, Xreal One Pro, and had your link bookmarked to do something similar. I am very impressed with these glasses. Looking through ifixit I can't find the Steam Deck's mainboard. Where did you find it?
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by MichaelThatsIt on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @08:28PM (#44314410)
Ebay! But fear not! I’m working on a version based on the Radxa Rock 5B which is more readily available and has more kick than a pi 5.

Also doing the research on productizing the whole thing and sourcing a custom board.

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by ezschemi on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @08:44PM (#44314469)
I see. Need to check Ebay then.

I am interested in a productized version - but only with x64 boards like the Steam Deck or one of the Framework mainboards. I don't want to deal with 3D printing and all that. The latter are larger than the Steam Deck, though. No battery for me though: I would use it after work, when I am near an outlet anyway.

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by ludicrousdispla on Thursday June 19, 2025 @12:17AM (#44315394)
You should put at least the first three sentences from your comment into the project's readme.md file as I had no idea what a 'spatial display' or XREAL is for that matter.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by nottorp on Thursday June 19, 2025 @03:32AM (#44316358)
> I started using the XREAL glasses a few months ago.

How's your eye sight? Any signs of fatigue?

I've seen people saying that they're fine for gaming and movie watching but too fuzzy for work...

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by MichaelThatsIt on Thursday June 19, 2025 @03:54AM (#44316451)
No more than any other XR product. I can do the work I need to from it for the most part.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by nottorp on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:11AM (#44316521)
I’m asking AR vs monitors, not comparisons between AR products.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by MichaelThatsIt on Thursday June 19, 2025 @11:28AM (#44319595)
My bad. It’s as good as any 1080p monitor and it supports 120hz refresh rate. The FOV will be the thing that gets to you.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by nottorp on Thursday June 19, 2025 @01:25PM (#44320714)
It will be a long time until I try because I have both astigmatism and dioptries so I’d need something pretty custom.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by lima on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:44PM (#44322381)
There are prescription inserts for it, including astigmatism and dioptries
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by nottorp on Friday June 20, 2025 @03:38AM (#44325516)
Like Apple's? Single source and overpriced?
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by corvec on Friday June 20, 2025 @04:13AM (#44325639)
They list three different vendors on the site for prescription inserts (one per region), and there are other vendors who offer them, too. The partnered US vendor had them listed at $150 but I think some of the other options are cheaper.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by lima on Saturday June 21, 2025 @10:04AM (#44337699)
I'm in the EU, I used HONSVR and paid $50, which seems reasonable.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by holmesworcester on Monday June 23, 2025 @12:31PM (#44357451)
using honsvr lenses with xreal now for a mild astigmatism and they're great.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by regularfry on Thursday June 19, 2025 @06:30AM (#44317219)
The Air glasses are a bit fuzzy. The Xreal One Pros are far better. I can work all day in them, if I'm not going to be on any video calls.
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by throwaway290 on Thursday June 19, 2025 @10:37AM (#44319091)
I've seen review from a guy who started losing sight with xreal glasses after a month of daily use (got better a week+ after he stopped) so I would only pay attention to long term users...
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by delecti on Thursday June 19, 2025 @12:34PM (#44320210)
That's a pretty strong claim, do you have a source for that?
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by throwaway290 on Thursday June 19, 2025 @01:18PM (#44320653)
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by lima on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:52PM (#44322445)
Sounds like eye strain rather than any sort of physical damage. What would the mechanism even be?
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by Full_Clark on Thursday June 19, 2025 @09:41PM (#44324032)
I've been using the Viture XR Pro glasses and they're fine for occasional PC use but I don't like them enough to use a daily driver for work.

It's great for gaming and movies as you say, and also for adopting a better posture when using a laptop in a cramped space like a train or airline seat. But even with the individual focus wheels for each eye, it doesn't feel sharp enough at 1080p to replace a 24" or 27" screen on a standard desk layout.

If I had the option of one 24" 1080p monitor on my desk or XR glasses to use for 8-10 hours of thoughtful work, I would choose the monitor.

Regarding eye strain or fatigue, I don't notice any. The fact that the projected display appears to be 3-4m away probably helps a lot with that.

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by zavec on Thursday June 19, 2025 @03:37AM (#44316381)
This looks awesome!

> I bought the parts separately rather than gutting a perfectly good one.

Huh, I didn't know you could do that. Neat.

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by marci on Thursday June 19, 2025 @06:24AM (#44317191)
Instead of carrying a small mouse, the case itself could be a trackpad :D

https://ploopy.co/trackpad/

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by MichaelThatsIt on Thursday June 19, 2025 @12:50PM (#44320358)
I have one! It’s huge haha.

I’m still trying to figure out how to fit a full trackball in there…

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by marci on Thursday June 19, 2025 @04:03PM (#44322054)
haha.. now I wonder... a steam deck with dual trackballs instead of dual trackpads...
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by holmesworcester on Monday June 23, 2025 @12:30PM (#44357443)
did you consider using the steam deck's trackpads? are they useful?
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by jiriro on Thursday June 19, 2025 @02:14PM (#44321107)
The thing in the top left corner is killing ploopy spectacularly:-\
Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by ThibJP on Thursday June 19, 2025 @11:37AM (#44319662)
> It's currently running Ubuntu 24, but I may switch back to Steam OS, given it's better optimized for the hardware.

Do you have specifics issues in mind ? Battery consumption ? performance ? Stability issues ?

Re:Bento: A Steam Deck in a Keyboard by ryukafalz on Thursday June 19, 2025 @12:49PM (#44320344)
This is very cool! Love to see the Commodore 64 style of keyboard computer come back.

I got the Viture Pro recently and this would be fun to add to that. Ultimately I think this is a very nice form factor both for portable use with XR glasses, and for use with a USB-C dock at home. The XR glasses on the market are still a bit rough, but the nice thing about this kind of setup is that you can replace the computer and the glasses independently, so as the glasses improve (especially looking forward to glasses with high-quality waveguides) you can upgrade.