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Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by irthomasthomas on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @01:38PM (#44301662)
"Soon, AI too cheap to meter" "Meantime, price go up".
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by skybrian on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @01:52PM (#44301828)
There are a lot more price drops, though.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by cdblades on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @09:22AM (#44309671)
From prices that were already losing services money.

If you aren't making a profit, lowering prices is only about trying to capture market share before you're forced to increase prices to remain solvent.

Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by llm_nerd on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @03:37PM (#44303012)
Not too long ago Google was a bit of a joke in AI and their offerings were uncompetitive. For a while a lot of their preview/beta models had a price of 0.00. They were literally giving it away for free to try to get people to consider their offerings when building solutions.

As they've become legitimately competitive they have moved towards the pricing of their competitors.

Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by nicce on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @01:52PM (#44301832)
We have likely seen the cheapest prices already. Once we can’t function without them anymore - go as high as you can!
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by nico on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @01:58PM (#44301915)
Hopefully we get more competition and someone willing to undercut the more expensive options
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by nicce on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @03:31PM (#44302947)
Entering the market and being competitive gets more difficult all the time. People want the best and fastest models - can you compete with trillion dollar datacenters?
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by eru on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @09:23PM (#44305781)
You might be right, but there's plenty of deep pocketed companies who are still very excited to compete in this market.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by overfeed on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @04:37PM (#44303662)
It's more likely the shareholder zeitgeist will soon shift to demanding returns on the ungodly amounts already invested into AI.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by hirako2000 on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @04:38PM (#44303674)
By then comparable or even better models will easily run on edge.

So if they crank up the prices we could just switch to local and not get lured by bigger and bigger models, rag, Agentic, MCP driven tech as if all of that couldn't run locally either.

Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by gnatolf on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @05:41PM (#44304257)
I am not as optimistic that locally run models will be able to compete anytime soon. And even if, the price to run them means you have to buy the compute/gear for a price that is likely equivalent to a lot of 'remote' tokens
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by nicce on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @06:09PM (#44304496)
The most meaningful models will run in the future on those trillion dollar data centers that are currently being build.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by cdblades on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @09:22AM (#44309676)
> By then comparable or even better models will easily run on edge.

What are you basing that on?

Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by croon on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @01:06PM (#44311581)
Presumably your goal is to extract some practical value from this and not just higher benchmark numbers. If you can get the functionality you need from last-gen, there's no point in paying for next-gen. YMMV.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by hirako2000 on Thursday June 19, 2025 @10:10AM (#44318849)
Indeed that was the premise that we would be a step behind when running on edge. That's already the case.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by eru on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @09:22PM (#44305780)
You know that competition is a thing, do you?
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by tekno45 on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @01:51PM (#44301824)
"will be too cheap to meter" means we're definitely metering it now.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by tom_m on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @04:31PM (#44303606)
No way. AI pricing is going up because people are willing to pay for it.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by victorbjorklund on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @04:51PM (#44303827)
Just google. They were behind. So they just dumped their prices to get a foot in the door. Now they are popular and can raise it to market prices.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by sodality2 on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @05:11PM (#44304004)
I still don’t think there’s any real stickiness to using a Google model over any other model, with things like openrouter. So maybe for brand recognition alone.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by victorbjorklund on Thursday June 19, 2025 @12:56PM (#44320418)
Yea, but brand have some stickiness. Maybe not for the absolute nerds but lots of people just stick to what they are already using. Look at all the people just using ChatGPT because that is what they tried first.
Re:We're expanding our Gemini 2.5 family of models by sodality2 on Friday June 20, 2025 @05:02PM (#44332071)
True, but that’s a website, of which the set of them come with bespoke features. I’d assume someone who adopted the API knows it’s easier to switch because it’s an open standard.