2015: 10.38 Billion USD (inflation adjusted)

2023: 10.28 Billion USD (inflation adjusted)

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/MS.MIL.XPND.CD?location...

Expert opinion:

* https://carnegieendowment.org/emissary/2025/04/iran-nuclear-...

* https://nationalinterest.org/blog/energy-world/us-iran-nucle...

Note that neither tout the success of 2015 directly (why would they, it failed after USA withdrew) but rather are proposing a new deal would build upon stuff that worked in 2015:

> In 2015, the JCPOA’s durability stemmed in part from expert-level dialogue between scientists, including US Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz and Ali Akbar Salehi, then-head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran. Reestablishing that kind of technical cooperation is essential to crafting a framework that can both verify compliance and contain Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

Your own data shows expenditures rose for 2 years after the signing of the treaty… and once the US pulled out they dropped precipitously. That’s ignoring the context of what was happening at the time namely, Iran directly supporting the genocidal Syrian regime.

Those “experts” don’t at all support your claims that the 2015 deal was or could be successful. We’re not currently discussing the deal that might be made, as details are changing too rapidly for anything they said last week to be relevant anymore (e.g. many of the scientists who were pursuing a second jewish genocide are now dead). We’re discussing whether the 2015 deal was viable immediately after it was signed… based on your own data and idea (treaty = declining military spending) it appears it wasn’t.

Again. My hypothesis is about trends and probability, not absolutes. One datapoint is not enough to prove or disprove anything.

I purposefully tried to find the most up to date opinions on the matter while still before Israels attacks. But here is what experts were saying back in March 2018

> Iran is Implementing Nuclear-related JCPOA Commitments, Director General Amano Tells IAEA Board

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/iran-is-implementing-nu...

> Collapse of Iran nuclear deal would be ‘great loss,’ says UN atomic agency chief

https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/03/1004112

Lol k. So you opinion is that maybe if the rest of the world lets Iran build up a huge stockpile of weapons and enrich uranium 50% of the way to a nuke, they’ll not be as evil?

I guess that’s an opinion someone could have…

Regarding your sources, yes those are the naive experts I was talking about. The same ones who allowed Iran to build a secret facility right under their nose, the same one that finally admitted years too late that actually Iran is far out of compliance. They’re about as effective as UNIFIL.

Iran just withdrew from the NPT. So once again, your high minded ideas don’t have any basis in reality. This comes on the heels of the IAEA finally deciding to acknowledge the reality that Iran has not been in compliance for quite a while.

Meanwhile you felt your personal opinion should be what decides the fate of half the world’s Jews.

[delayed]

I haven’t personally attacked anyone. I pointed out some egregious behavior you engaged in and suggested that you refrain from doing that in the future. But it seems even in this comment you again engaged in that same bigoted behavior. It’s very disappointing. I’m really sorry that it’s so difficult for you to discuss a topic without showing extreme prejudice and in some cases outright hostility. Again this is not a personal attack, but rather me calling out inappropriate and offensive language.

I will engage one last time but I caution you to please reconsider your approach. If you continue to make such racist comments I will simply leave the conversation as I don’t like interacting with hateful people.

The article you shared is from a publication that ain’t known for fair and balanced coverage, but even there they admit that Iran pursuing nuclear power has pushed SA to do the same. Once again showing that it’s not about how many countries maintain nuclear capability but rather how stable their governments are. Belaying the fact that treaties are basically meaningless unless everyone else believes you will keep to them. And guess what, the majority of humanity believes Iran will not keep its word on anything. Even today they were shouting “Death To America, Death to Israel”. A people screaming for blood should be believed not coddled, especially when they openly act out those calls for mass murder. So far they’ve attacked multiple large apartment buildings and a school for mentally impaired children none of which were anywhere near any military targets.

Nothing he said was bigoted or racist, what are you talking about?

>Even today they were shouting “Death To America, Death to Israel”.

What about the Israelis shouting death to Arabs?

> So far they’ve attacked multiple large apartment buildings and a school for mentally impaired children none of which were anywhere near any military targets

Israel has targeted hospitals and apartments also. Tit for tat. Also Iran has hit military targets which were placed among civilians (HaKirya). Why is Israel using human shields? Reprehensible.

For the record, this is what the experts are saying now:

> For #Israel to attack #Iran including its nuclear facilities (prohibited by international law) and for #Trump to ask Iran for “total surrender” and forgo a treaty right (uranium enrichment) in a clear act of national humiliation, on suspicion that it is developing nuclear weapons (possessed by both #Israel and #US), suspicion that does not constitute an “imminent threat” as confirmed by all western intelligence agencies and was dealt with through negotiations in #JCPOA agreement of 2015 which the US withdrew from in 2018

> To rely on force and not negotiations is a sure way to destroy the #NPT and the nuclear non proliferation regime (imperfect as it is) and sends a clear message to many countries that their “ultimate security” is to develop nuclear weapons !!!

https://x.com/ElBaradei/status/1935041599605539211

ElBaradei won the Nobel Price in 2005 for his work on nuclear non-proliferation. I‘m pretty sure he knows more about this than you or I.

Ah yes a Jew hater, won a noble peace prize. The “most prestigious” of noble prizes. Only handed out to those who really accomplish great things.

You do your argument no favors linked to a twitter account that openly spreads blood libels and invents lies.