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Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Monday July 28, 2025 @10:37AM (#44711312)
Every time someone claims that Israel or the Jewish people are inherently genocidal, hateful, or racist, they are participating in a modern-day blood libel. It’s deeply troubling and echoes one of the oldest and most dangerous forms of antisemitism: falsely accusing Jews of heinous crimes to justify hatred and violence against them.

This type of rhetoric is not only historically rooted in prejudice, but it also fuels the rise in antisemitic incidents around the world. For example, a recent incident involving a group of Jewish French children being racially targeted and removed from a flight, based on completely fabricated claims that contradict eyewitness testimony, is a chilling reminder of where this kind of hostility leads. These children were interrogated about their ties to Israel, simply because they were visibly Jewish. The Spanish foreign minister then added to the fire by asking if the Spanish people would be patriotic or believe evil Israeli zionists, (again these were French Jews many of whom had never been to Israel.) echoing the Dreyfus affair and other blood libels.

You spreading completely, provably false claims of genocide and violence doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It emboldens bigots and reinforces the belief that Jews, wherever they are, are somehow deserving of suspicion or punishment for existing.

Many people hate Israel not because of any policy disagreement, but because it represents one of the few places where Jews feel they have agency and safety in a world that has repeatedly failed to protect them. That safety, unfortunately, is what some find threatening.

Nothing I’ve said promotes hate or genocide, quite the opposite. My concern is with protecting people from the real harm that comes from false accusations and malicious stereotypes. It’s important to recognize when the line between legitimate criticism and dangerous rhetoric has been crossed, and to speak up when it happens.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Friday July 25, 2025 @05:48PM (#44688892)
And now you’re threatening me. Please have some decorum. I’m not sure why some random dude who wasn’t part of the conversation is suddenly getting involved in a 10+ comment deep chain. Very odd behavior.

Consider that your own personal feelings are preventing you from observing reality from an unbiased perspective. You seem to go around inserting yourself into old comment threads about Israel calling anyone who doesn’t agree with you racist and genocidal. Please calm down. Just because I don’t hate Jews it doesn’t make me genocidal. In fact it’s very much the opposite, I’m anti genocide. You appear to be in support of genocide with your false claims that Jews are genocidal.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Friday July 25, 2025 @11:39AM (#44684419)
It is just a press release and regardless, what any country’s official position is, is irrelevant. Legality generally doesn’t apply to international relations as each state makes their own determination on what does and doesn’t apply to them.

For example the current US ambassador to Israel just announced that France will be partitioned into two states, one for France and one for Palestine, France isn’t bound by that.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Friday July 25, 2025 @11:21AM (#44684167)
Hamas shared the videos… not sure what else you’d call it when a violent mob made up of both young and old people jostles and jeers and attacks innocent civilians and then throws rocks and chases their car. This don’t happen just once, it was a crowd of 1000s every time.

Here in America we call that a lynch mob.

Maybe you should stop with the bigotry apologism.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Thursday July 24, 2025 @12:45PM (#44672913)
I never disagreed that some children aren’t getting food, my point always was that the UN and Hamas are responsible for this problem, the IDF in partnership with GHF are the only organizations facilitating alleviating the suffering.

The UN has literal tons of food that they’re refusing to distribute. Hamas clearly has access to fresh fruit as recently as 2 days ago and yet they refuse to share any of it with their constituents. Egypt is refusing to allow anyone to leave Gaza as a refugee. When Israel and Trump proposed resettling the refugees temporarily until the war ended they were accused by you, the UN, and every single “humanitarian” org of ethnic cleansing.

Israel is not responsible for a problem they didn’t create, don’t want and are trying very hard to prevent and end. The only people responsible for this are the ones refusing to solve it unless it allows for a genocide of Jews.

The OP and you are both determined to only consider solutions that allow for further Arab colonization and may result in the death of millions of Jews. This is why I accuse you of genocide.

I will also add, Israel is not responsible for the health and welfare of even a single Gazan citizen, that responsibility falls on Hamas, so literally anything Israel does to help the gazan citizenry is already going above and beyond. If you have a problem with the welfare of Hamas’s constituents, take it up with them. Tell them to unconditionally surrender and return the kidnapped hostages. Instead of agitating for the wholesale slaughter of Jews.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Thursday July 24, 2025 @11:54AM (#44672240)
This isn’t really true though. Most gazans were out in the streets jeering at the hostages when they were kidnapped and then again when any were returned, most gazans were attempting to lynch the hostages (throwing rocks at them) as the Red Cross vans were speeding the hostages back home. Most gazans appear to have just as much blood lust as you apparently. Who seem to be chomping at the bit to genocide all the Jews.

Most gazans very clearly would rather the war continue bec they get free food and the possibility to kill Jews.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Thursday July 24, 2025 @11:47AM (#44672156)
Again, read that article lol, it doesn’t actually support the thing you’re saying. It has a claim by a soldier without any supporting proof. Same with the CNN article, there is literally zero video evidence supporting your claim in the most recorded war in history, ask yourself why that is? Why do we have video of hamas shooting their own people, video of basically every single missile landing, but this event that has apparently resulted in 500+ deaths has literally no video evidence. You would think if it was happening someone would be pointing cameras at the idf position and just watching, but somehow they’re never seem to have any evidence of it. All we have are drs making claims in hospitals… somehow the drs in field hospitals know where all their patients came from and exactly what happened to them, but no one else has any idea.

As always the question is for you: why do you hate Jews so much? Why do you want all the Jews to be killed?

Just so we’re clear I showed an actual video of Hamas with fresh fruit, the UN just shared a video of literal tons of aid they’re refusing to distribute. you shared a paywalled article quoting an anonymous source with zero verification.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @11:51PM (#44666722)
One cannot colonize their own land. Arabs and Muslims are not indigenous to Judea and Samaria, they are colonizers who invaded and ethnically cleansed the area and then hilariously refer to it as a part of a different country (west bank of what?).
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @11:45PM (#44666695)
If that were true it would be a problem, since it’s just lies told by hamas that you are now repeating for some reason we don’t have to worry about it.

Here are your starving gazans: https://x.com/DocumentIsrael/status/1948045924099367359 they have fresh fruit that looks perfectly ripe… so interesting that no aid is getting in and yet somehow they’re holding fruit I sometimes have trouble finding in my supermarket here in the US…

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @11:44PM (#44666684)
If gazans want the war to end all they have to do is return the people they so gleefully kidnapped and continue to torture and hold hostage. Instead they point fingers and depend on brainwashed westerners without any knowledge of the conflict or history to get them out of the mess they themselves created.

I wasn’t directly referencing that but it’s literally the strongest proof, data, evidence science that she was 10000% right. Stop defending monsters because you literally have no clue what you’re talking about.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @11:39PM (#44666644)
Defending colonization and genocide is evil. You are defending both, while accusing others of heinous atrocities without any demonstrable evidence, qed.
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @06:48PM (#44664834)
When someone is asked to stop being evil and their response is to deflect and then lie, we can conclude that they are gonna continue doing that evil thing.
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @06:43PM (#44664798)
You appear to be supporting the mass murder of Jews.
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @06:40PM (#44664781)
So you’re for colonization then? Fascinating.
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @06:34PM (#44664739)
Incorrect, and the only people attempting to alleviate the state of the children in Gaza atm is the IDF, all the adults in Gaza it appears are more interested in attempting to kill Jews vs caring for their own children.
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @06:33PM (#44664726)
Yes it’s difficult to understand why someone would be for mass murder and yet many in these comments support the wholesale slaughter of Jews.
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @03:28PM (#44663024)
The term Genocide was specifically coined to refer to what happened to the Jews in WWII, its meaning doesn’t change to fit your own hateful ideology.

Population numbers are very relevant as are the intentions, actions, and policies. The only people talking about and actually attempting to commit genocide are the Arab/Muslim colonists who have been attempting to colonize and genocide the native people for over 500 years. Most recently last week in southern Syria, before that was 2 months ago in western Syria, but before that obviously Oct 7th. Due in no small part to the IDF all these attempts have failed, but until the colonists either go back to the Arabian peninsula, where they came from or at the very least stop trying to kill their neighbors there will no peace.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @03:21PM (#44662949)
Yes, lol a press release by the Biden DoD is propaganda not factual information.

Obviously Russia is wrong on a moral level for invading its neighbor but legality doesn’t enter into the conversation.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @03:19PM (#44662906)
> Everyone else in the world.

“I declare bankruptcy!” -Michael Scott

The term genocide was specifically coined to refer to what happened to the Jews during WWII, its meaning doesn’t change to fit your bigoted opinions. There has not been a complete eradication of anyone or anything in Gaza but Jews and that happened back in 2005.

Haters gonna hate. But your hatred and vile rhetoric don’t make you right. Hopefully HN will be less welcoming to this sort of offensive attitude.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @03:10PM (#44662829)
The term genocide was coined specifically to refer to what happened to the Jews during WWII. Your nonsense logic doesn’t apply.
Wow, that’s terrible. Seems we need to start simulating ransomeware attacks to confirm our infrastructure is up to the task of recovering from them.

Best practices these days is use cloud providers as part of your backup solution who maintain their own backups of your backups which in theory make you getting hacked recoverable.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @12:04PM (#44660737)
> invade a country

Arab colonizers invaded Israel on Oct 7th (and many times before that too) and kidnapped 100s of civilians Israel is now trying to retrieve them.

> commit a genocide

Arab colonizers have been attempting genocide since the 1600s, their most recent attempt was on Oct 7th. Again Israel is simply trying to reclaim their own people and prevent any future genocide attempts.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @11:52AM (#44660606)
You’re not the first person in history to blame the joos for all the world’s ills and unfortunately you probably won’t be the last. But hopefully here on HN such rhetoric will be unwelcome.

Nothing I wrote is untrue or even remotely eye opening. It’s all just plain facts, that the Palestinians themselves admit as supported by the sibling comment quoting from a book written by one of them.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @11:19AM (#44660209)
This is both categorically false and completely irrelevant.

The first claim is that genocide has been happening since 1948, the second claim is that it has increased in intensity in the last two years, both claims can be completely dismissed as fabrications by simply looking at the population growth of the nation that is supposedly being killed.

I honestly don’t know why you would bring up the fact that the Jewish population is climbing after the eponymous genocide was attempted.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @10:47AM (#44659812)
Illegal according to who? The concept of legal doesn’t apply to nation states. “Legal” presupposes an enforcement framework and process which simply doesn’t exist as it applies to sovereign countries.

But more to the point you can’t claim to be rational while using terms like “the complete eradication of Gaza”. The population in Gaza has grown since the war started.

Meanwhile in southern Syria the Druze are actually being exterminated by self-proclaimed jihadis (and Palestinian “refugees”) and the whole world is turning a blind eye while Israel desperately tries to prevent a larger catastrophe. Now the Syrian Druze are requesting to be annexed by Israel and to be under IDF protection. You don’t care about Palestinians, you just hate Jews.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @10:36AM (#44659702)
Answer: a war of genocide and extermination attempted by 6+ Arab/muslim majority states against the nascent nation of Israel, fortunately for all involved they completely failed and in fact ended up losing land. While they did succeed in ethnically cleansing the Jews from any land that did end up under Jordan and Egyptian occupation, and they did expel (ie ethnically cleanse) Jews from most Muslim majority countries, they failed in their overarching goal of finishing Hitler’s work of exterminating all Jews.

Certain morally degenerate groups see this failure (of killing all Jews) as an absolute catastrophe and thus name it the Nakhba.

Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @10:26AM (#44659591)
Because Israel alone bears all the responsibility for the lack of peace in the region… it’s not like these people are perpetually looking for war
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Tuesday July 22, 2025 @11:07PM (#44655372)
Ah yes, the genocide where the people being genocided continue to outpace the population growth of the nation doing the genocide. The ethnic cleansing where the only time it happens is to remove Jews from an area. The apartheid where the “subjugated” sit on the Supreme Court, have 10+ seats in parliament (which matches voting demographics), were recently part of the majority, and share all the same rights as their supposed oppressors.

The same state which is right now defending another people from an actual genocide being carried out by self proclaimed jehadis in Syria, and the Druze are now begging to be annexed by Israel.

Literally anyone who makes any claims of genocide or ethnic cleansing or most hysterically, “apartheid” outs themselves as a complete ignoramus of the region, history and reality and is openly declaring their bigotry.

Someone at NASA is trying to get some good PR going, this is barely a story.
Re:The United States withdraws from UNESCO on Tuesday July 22, 2025 @10:50AM (#44647643)
They’re all directly in context of themselves. And if you read the original press release are related to why the US is leaving UNESCO.

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