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Re:Journalists Wary of Travelling to US Due to Palantir Surv... by kreetx on Sunday June 15, 2025 @02:48PM (#44284199)
I've no idea how he makes his money, and no, journalists are not "by definition" politically engaged.

Secondly, df you read his blog, he pretty clearly is an activist, as he focuses on a single topic, has chosen a side, and also is acting upon it by protesting.

Re:Journalists Wary of Travelling to US Due to Palantir Surv... by jakelazaroff on Sunday June 15, 2025 @03:07PM (#44284319)
> no, journalists are not "by definition" politically engaged.

Which part of journalism doesn't involve "political engagement"? Selecting which stories are covered, and how prominently? Choosing whom to interview and deciding what questions to ask? Which details are important enough to include, and which to omit? There is no cogent definition of "journalism" by which it is not an intrinsically political activity.

> Secondly, df you read his blog, he pretty clearly is an activist, as he focuses on a single topic, has chosen a side

That is common among journalists; it is called a "beat".

> and also is acting upon it by protesting.

Hundreds of millions of people all over the world protest. 2–4 million did so in the U.S. alone yesterday. Are they all "activists"?

Re:Journalists Wary of Travelling to US Due to Palantir Surv... by kreetx on Sunday June 15, 2025 @03:20PM (#44284379)
I don't think few if any journalist I've read have taken part in protests.

Also, most journalists just investigate and present stories by assembling what they found. And then they go and investigate another topic. But this person has just one topic.

I'd say people who consistently protest and consistently write about the topic are activists, yes. Do you need an even stronger definition?

Re:Journalists Wary of Travelling to US Due to Palantir Surv... by SauciestGNU on Sunday June 15, 2025 @04:07PM (#44284658)
Having beliefs and advocating for them does not preclude one from doing journalism, and I would argue that undoubtedly any written account of occurrences on the ground during protests are journalism, regardless of the slant.

You really don't want to get into categorizing speech as protected or not based on content.

Re:Journalists Wary of Travelling to US Due to Palantir Surv... by gruez on Sunday June 15, 2025 @04:35PM (#44284789)
I agree the government shouldn't be in the business of gatekeeping what being a "journalist" means, but I think we can all agree there's there's clearly a category difference between a BBC reporter objectively covering the protests, and someone involved with the protests giving a one-sided account.
Re:Journalists Wary of Travelling to US Due to Palantir Surv... by gruez on Sunday June 15, 2025 @04:21PM (#44284720)
>Which part of journalism doesn't involve "political engagement"? Selecting which stories are covered, and how prominently? Choosing whom to interview and deciding what questions to ask? Which details are important enough to include, and which to omit? There is no cogent definition of "journalism" by which it is not an intrinsically political activity.

"politically engaged" in this case refers to participating in the protests itself, or even taking a particular side. It's the opposite of being "objective", back when that was an ideal to strive for. Nowadays "objectivity" is being dropped in favor of "moral clarity".

>That is common among journalists; it is called a "beat".

No. Writing about resturants in New York is a "beat". Writing pieces consistently favoring one side is being an activist.

>Hundreds of millions of people all over the world protest. 2–4 million did so in the U.S. alone yesterday. Are they all "activists"?

Yes? Are you going to gatekeep "actvist" to people who are card carrying DSA members or something?