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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by ctxc on Sunday June 15, 2025 @01:39AM (#44280770)
That's must be annoying to say the least. In India drivers require an OTP to start a ride.

The OTP is the same for a user across rides, so I have mine memorised which is nifty. No fiddling with the phone during boarding.

On security: exploiting this would require the driver to stay in my vicinity the next time I book a ride, and also get the ride assigned to them. In a high population density area, it's rare - I've never had the same driver twice.

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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by cwalv on Sunday June 15, 2025 @01:54AM (#44280815)
An OTP that's reused?
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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by csomar on Sunday June 15, 2025 @02:37AM (#44280918)
It solves the problem for 99.99% of the time. Drivers are not going to memorize your OTP; and it is unlikely that an OTP list will be leaked/used anytime soon.
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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by broken-kebab on Sunday June 15, 2025 @03:26AM (#44281081)
Maybe, but there's OT in OTP. So if it's not changing then it's not OTP, just P.
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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by travisjungroth on Sunday June 15, 2025 @05:12AM (#44281365)
It changes every time. You can also just have it at night, which I have. Prevents drunk wrong riders.
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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by wildzzz on Sunday June 15, 2025 @08:21AM (#44281942)
For that driver, it's effectively an OTP although probably not very pseudorandom.
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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by ctxc on Sunday June 15, 2025 @01:57AM (#44280820)
I mean it _technically_ isn't an OTP, but you know what I mean - just a code only the user knows that they need to share with the rider.

The threat model is sufficiently low to justify the much better UX of not having to look the code up everytime.

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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by Propelloni on Sunday June 15, 2025 @06:42AM (#44281603)
The acronym you are looking for is "PIN", a Personal Identification Number.
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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by mrloop on Sunday June 15, 2025 @04:38AM (#44281265)
An MTP
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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by labster on Sunday June 15, 2025 @04:56AM (#44281328)
Omni-time password
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Re:Waymo rides cost more than Uber or Lyft – and people are ... by dheerajvs on Sunday June 15, 2025 @07:33AM (#44281777)
Uber in India gives me a different OTP for each ride. A different ride-hailing app I use occasionally uses a PIN tied to a user.

OTPs are a simple solution to fraudulent rides that it's surprising it's not implemented universally, given all the complaints in this thread.

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