How to Build Conscious Machines

Re:How to Build Conscious Machines by Avicebron on Saturday June 14, 2025 @01:29PM (#44277603)

> "There are a few other results too. I’ve given explanations of the origins of life, language, the Fermi paradox, causality, an alterna- tive to Ockham’s Razor, the optimal way to structure control within a company or other organisation, and instructions on how to give a computer cancer"

Sighs

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Re:How to Build Conscious Machines by mtbennett on Sunday June 15, 2025 @01:14AM (#44280702)

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Re:How to Build Conscious Machines by AIorNot on Sunday June 15, 2025 @10:10AM (#44282381)

Mtbennett:

You propose a physicalist theory which is super interesting and I will read it in depth

But question: what is consciousness itself except as can be described by consciousness?

What do you make of the idea that consciousness (or universal consciousness of some form) is the fundamental substrate for existence

Eg (link to a Rupert Spira video https://youtu.be/FEdySF5Z4xo?si=z2fEgEW8AG3CcCC2

Or as in analytic idealism of Bernardo Kastrup

https://youtu.be/P-rXm7Uk9Ys?si=78165IH_ZIvWnJC9

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Re:How to Build Conscious Machines by mtbennett on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @10:56PM (#44315041)

Starting with consciousness as the fundamental is a cool idea, but others have done that in depth (e.g. IIT).

My approach is to say "I don't know what is fundamental" and identify what must be fundamental to all possible worlds regardless whether it is consciousness or something else. The answer then is that difference or change is fundamental. That is as true if we start with consciousness as it is if we start with physics.

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