The curfew is because the force escalation has inspired more protests. When they called out the national guard, it was at the level of sports fans. The subsequent provocations have caused an escalation, and the mayor’s curfew is an attempt to break that cycle - and it’s still far below the level where a military response would be justified.

if the cops are all rioting and playing murder-musical chairs with peaceful people living their lives freely, crimes of opportunity will happen.

it's the feds and the sheriffs and the police causing unrest, by intent and design.

Certainly the Trump regime are.

LAPD are trained and regularly used for crowd control and protest dispersal. The guard isn’t. And for sure the Marines have no clue about policing.

I think LAPD is choosing a 1st amendment violation as the lesser failure than permitting any escalation involving the National Guard. That would quickly turn out badly for the guard, become a pretext for ever more violent authoritarianism in response.

Well you’re ignorant.

This was posted before a single National Guardsman arrived in LA. It’s yet another lie by an untrustworthy liar, and a psychopath. https://trumpstruth.org/statuses/31410

If you think this is normal politics, at best you’re ignorant, at worst you’re brainwashed.

It is not normal for two parties to completely distrust each other. Adversarialism is evidence of trust, not distrust. If you don’t understand that, you don’t understand how the government works at all.

A generic partisan dispute is how much money to spend on health care versus roads versus the military versus foreign aid.

What’s occurring now is whether a president can punish individuals for funding his political opponents, enrich himself through obvious and undenied bribery, and send in the military only to Democratic majority cities to force them to submit to his will regarding immigration in violation of state and federal law.

LA is handling this provocation calmly. NYC and Philly will not be so relaxed about it as LA.

Well, then we find ourselves finding each other out of touch!

I think your line of thinking might be either overly naïve, or maliciously turning a blind eye:

First, "both-sides"-ing, for lack of a better word, is — IMHO — a false equivalence that treats the current democratic transgressions of rights and freedoms from the alt-right government to, for example, democrat's normalizing that saying racist stuff is a faux-pas; i.e. some goons are actively harming humans and that isn't the same as racists being butt-hurt that they were banned from some site.

Second, in this particular case — where there is push back against fascists — trying to reduce the scope of the discussion is like trying to censor police-cam footage to just the split-second segments where the cops get scared and shoot, but that leaves out how the trigger-happy cop broke protocol, escalated the situation, and berated confusing orders at the victim. So, no... We need nuance and context.

I really hope people that find themselves what-abouting for fascists are able to escape whatever information bubble they find themselves in so that they may be able to stop willfully looking past other people's humanity before we all find each other on the wrong end of a power-tripping cop that won't even have to come up with a good lie to snuff our lives out.

Hi. I used to live in Downtown Los Angeles, and would regularly walk a dog to where the protests are. My friends are saying the protests are roughly two blocks in size, in front of the administrative buildings and in the neighboring city park. Outside of that area, life goes on as normal. Inside that area, when the crowd builds up after work, people are playing music and dancing. Yes, some people (visibly different crowd than the protesters) have used that cover for some looting and vandalism. But the pretense of this needing the military is just silly. The most aggressive behavior I've seen is cops throwing flash grenades and shooting rubber bullets directly at people's heads.

Before Trump intervened, LA has had worse Superbowl afterparties than the protest was at that time. This is all very much manufactured rage.

Consider that your news sources are really biased.

Here's a live feed, watch for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6S_OwCgKOU