If you think hierarchy is natural and good you're a conservative or some other kind of reactionary.

Hierarchies invite revolt and need a lot of force to keep in place.

I did not talk about natural, I did not talk about good.

If you think there are no hierarchies everywhere, then we have a completely different worldview.

It’s sounds like we’re running into the is/ought problem - just because there is hierarchy doesn’t mean that’s the way it ought to be.

Get out of here with this arrogant, ad hominem crap.

Acknowledging downsides of some culture doesn't automatically mean cultural superiority bias.

Calling out actual negative effects of a culture has nothing to do with claiming some culture is more superior. He's literally just pointing out specific outcomes. Is the birth rate in Korea a figure of my imagination based on my cultural superiority bias or a product of some of the negative effects of their culture?

Just saying "superiority bias" is completely sidestepping an actual discussion to be had about actual problems.

I will point you again to the usage of the word "perverted", which you missed twice.

In the modern day, Korean culture is absolutely cooked. There is a reason their birth rates are so terrible. Talking to Koreans and consuming even just a little bit of media about Korea makes some of the problems pretty obvious.

>benefits like societal coherence or stability

The situation looks exactly the opposite if you look at the birth rate in the Korea.

I obviously did not mean numerical stability.