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Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by whensean on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:42AM (#44245811)
From the perspective of national and social development, this is definitely a dross culture. This system similar to hierarchy seemingly increases the courtesy among people. However, it more often leads to age bullying, blind obedience to the elders, and hinders resistance and innovation.

Influenced by Confucian culture, China doesn't have such a perverted etiquette system at all.

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by 4gotunameagain on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:50AM (#44245856)
Typical cultural superiority bias.

Every way has its pros and cons. Having an age related hierarchy might have benefits like societal coherence or stability. I am not a proponent of it, I just acknowledge my inability to fully grasp the impact and ramifications as to label one as superior and the other as "perverted".

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by cess11 on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @06:01AM (#44245912)
If you think hierarchy is natural and good you're a conservative or some other kind of reactionary.

Hierarchies invite revolt and need a lot of force to keep in place.

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by 4gotunameagain on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @06:29AM (#44246081)
I did not talk about natural, I did not talk about good.

If you think there are no hierarchies everywhere, then we have a completely different worldview.

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by mock-possum on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @09:24AM (#44247373)
It’s sounds like we’re running into the is/ought problem - just because there is hierarchy doesn’t mean that’s the way it ought to be.
Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by skyscraperman on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @06:50AM (#44246205)
Get out of here with this arrogant, ad hominem crap.

Acknowledging downsides of some culture doesn't automatically mean cultural superiority bias.

Calling out actual negative effects of a culture has nothing to do with claiming some culture is more superior. He's literally just pointing out specific outcomes. Is the birth rate in Korea a figure of my imagination based on my cultural superiority bias or a product of some of the negative effects of their culture?

Just saying "superiority bias" is completely sidestepping an actual discussion to be had about actual problems.

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by 4gotunameagain on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @07:33AM (#44246485)
I will point you again to the usage of the word "perverted", which you missed twice.
Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by ZephyrBlu on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:45PM (#44252149)
In the modern day, Korean culture is absolutely cooked. There is a reason their birth rates are so terrible. Talking to Koreans and consuming even just a little bit of media about Korea makes some of the problems pretty obvious.
Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by Ray20 on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @08:32PM (#44253281)
>benefits like societal coherence or stability

The situation looks exactly the opposite if you look at the birth rate in the Korea.

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by 4gotunameagain on Thursday June 12, 2025 @01:17AM (#44254502)
I obviously did not mean numerical stability.