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Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by johngossman on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @03:54AM (#44245226)
These things come and go across times and cultures. Even in the United States, which many people think of as highly informal, it was once common to refer to almost everyone outside the family formally. My grandmother talked to her next door neighbor everyday and they said "Hello, Mrs. G-" and "How are you, Mrs. S-". You also see this in 19th century American and English literature ("Mr. Darcy")
Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by dustincoates on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:14AM (#44245333)
At least when I was growing up, it was still the norm in the South/Texas. My parents would have never referred to the elderly in our neighborhood by their first names.
Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by yurishimo on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:42AM (#44245812)
I also great up in Texas (30yo now). I was raised to always say sir/ma'am but for most adults that I knew well, we were on a first name basis. Deacons at church were usually on a first name basis (my parents volunteered a lot so I knew them all really well) but the one noticeable exception was the pastor and anyone in a teaching role.

Teachers were always addressed by Mr/Mrs/Ms and this extended into Scouts as well. For anyone I don't know, I tend to just say "sir/ma'am" (employee at the grocery store for example) unless. If the person has a professional title that I know of, I will use the title (Dr. Martin, Professor Lake, etc).

My parents I suppose were very similar. Sir/Ma'am for most interactions, but I don't recall hearing a Mr/Mrs/Ms when they referenced other people in our lives.

Since I've moved to Europe a few years back, I'm trying to follow the local customs more, which at first glance seem very similar (Netherlands). Formal for strangers, informal for basically everyone else. I've tried using the formal with some older neighbours and they always tell me stop immediately!

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by dustincoates on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @06:24AM (#44246053)
> Deacons at church were usually on a first name basis (my parents volunteered a lot so I knew them all really well) but the one noticeable exception was the pastor and anyone in a teaching role.

That brings up an actually interesting exception. At my church, the pastors were the only adults we'd ever call by their first name, sort of. Our pastor, for example, was always Brother Mike, not Pastor <Last Name>.

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by thyristan on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:29PM (#44252012)
Are you certain that Brother Mike wasn't a monk as well, so in a religious context "Brother Mike" was his only proper name?
Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by Ichthypresbyter on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:23AM (#44256932)
AIUI a Catholic monk who is also an ordained priest is addressed as Father not Brother (certainly this is true of the Dominicans I've met).

I think this is also true for Orthodox monks.

I'm not sure if there's a Christian denomination that has pastors who aren't priests, and also has monks. So this sounds to me more like a situation where all fellow members of the church are addressed as Brother/Sister.

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by vel0city on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @09:55AM (#44247672)
> I was raised to always say sir/ma'am

I also grew up in Texas and to this day I still tend to use sir/ma'am for most adults I don't know. Every now and then it seems to throw people off. People don't seem to expect to hear "Yes, sir" very often it seems.

Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by umbra07 on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @05:40PM (#44252109)
I think there's a difference between "excuse me sir, you dropped your wallet" and "yessir".
Re:Why Koreans ask what year you were born by wahern on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:27PM (#44251452)
In rural Georgia my father's wife, still 15+ years my senior, would always "yessir" and "no sir" me, just as she did with everyone else (ma'am for women, of course). And this was in the past 10 years. Even my half-siblings from rural Alabama do that generally, but not nearly so strictly with family like myself. Use of last names, though, is still reserved for non-family elders.

Conversely, in coastal California that kind of speech is actively (even aggressively) discouraged, such as in public schools, higher grades, especially. It's still appreciated in more traditional communities, though, such as black or immigrant Asian communities. Code switching isn't limited to certain minority groups; even affluent coastal white folks often end of code switching.