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Re:The Gentle Singularity by onlyrealcuzzo on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:34PM (#44242240)
> is watt-hours the right unit of measurement here?

That's how electricity is most commonly priced. What else would you want?

Re:The Gentle Singularity by minimaxir on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:46PM (#44242354)
It's more that every time the topic has come up, it's reported in watts and I'm not sure if there's a nuance I'm missing. It's entirely possible those reports have been in watt-hours though and using watts for shorthand.

I still find the Technology Connections video counterintuitive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOK5xkFijPc

Re:The Gentle Singularity by onlyrealcuzzo on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:59PM (#44242450)
A watt wouldn't make any sense.

A watt needs a time unit to be converted to joules because a watt is a measure of power, while a joule is a measure of energy.

Think of it like speed and distance:

A watt is a RATE of energy use, just like speed (e.g., miles per hour) is a RATE of travel.

A joule is a total amount of energy, just like distance (e.g., miles) is a total amount of travel.

If you're traveling 60 mph but you don't specify for how long... You won't know how far you went, how much gas you used, etc.

Re:The Gentle Singularity by moab on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:50PM (#44242387)
Watt-hours is the only unit that makes sense here as we're describing the energy cost of some calculation. Watt, a rate unit, is not appropriate.
Re:The Gentle Singularity by antihero on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @03:30AM (#44245106)
I mean you could use joule but wH is better.
Re:The Gentle Singularity by roywiggins on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:39PM (#44242707)
Watt-hours are what matter. If you want to boil a kettle, you need to use a certain minimum amount of watt-hours to do it, which corresponds to, say, burning a certain amount of propane. If you care about how many times you can boil a kettle on a bottle of propane, you care about the watt-hours expended. If you had perfect insulation you could boil a kettle by applying barely any watts for a long enough time and it would take the same amount of propane.

There are situations where Watts per se matter, eg if you build a datacenters in an area that doesn't have enough spare electricity capacity to generate enough watts to cover you, and you'd end up browning out the grid. Or you have a faulty burner and can't pump enough watts into your water to boil it before the heat leaks out, no matter how long you run it.