Android 16 Is Here

Re:Android 16 Is Here by layer8 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:10PM (#44240939)

I would really want to go back to something like the look of iOS 1-6, with clearly discernible UI controls vs. content and labels. Not the real-world-mimicking skeuomorphism, but the look of the standard UI controls.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by Pxtl on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:30PM (#44241132)

Web ruined everything. Got everybody thinking that flag rectangles were cool and consistent ui frameworks were old fashioned.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by bigstrat2003 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:12PM (#44240959)

Yes, of course I would. Android UI has been horrible ever since 12.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:02PM (#44240839)

Bad faith argument. The opposite of Android 16 enshitification isn't going back to Android 2, but around Android 10-12 or so it was already good enough IIRC. Why not keep it like that?

Similar to Windows 11. The opposite isn't going back all the way to Windows 3.1, but Windows 7 or so was kinda peak.

So please, justify me the progress, or more exactly, have UI designers justify it, because I'm not seeing it. I've mostly seen change for the sake of change, wrapped in fluffy artsy BS jargon, making it sound like each UI change is the second coming of Christ and fixes world hunger.

Because I can justify you how for example KDE 3 and similar apps of that era including on Windows XP-7, were visually easier and more intuitive to use, than those flat modern looks of KDE 5/Windows 11 today.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by legitster on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:07PM (#44240910)

More and more features are getting added, so the UI has to get reorganized to accomodate for them. A lot of the changes for Android 16 are to accommodate wearables and folding phones and etc while keeping the controls more consistent between them.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by FirmwareBurner on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:10PM (#44240938)

Cars have also gained new features, but the steering wheel, shifter, pedals, mirrors are still in the same places since >50 years. You don't need to get a new license and re-learn how to drive every time a new model comes out because they moved the steering wheel on the ceiling to install a 32 inch LCD screen.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by kllrnohj on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:42PM (#44242723)

And my android phone still has "back", "home", and "recents" buttons in the exact same place they've been since they were literal hardware buttons. Core navigation (aka, "steering") is unchanged, no new drivers license required

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by Izkata on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:59PM (#44243199)

Originally there was a 4th button, "menu". Android had a standard grid-shaped menu that apps could implement, that would pop up from the bottom of the screen.

Also "recents" wasn't its own button, it was reached by long-pressing "home". The other button was "search".

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by izacus on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @03:25AM (#44245063)

This hasn't been the case for literally decade though.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by int_19h on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @09:34PM (#44243372)

Last I checked you had to flip a switch in settings to have all those buttons back like that; it hasn't been a default in stock Android for some time now.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by throw10920 on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @11:53PM (#44244048)

> Bad faith argument.

Citation needed, and you're violating the HN guidelines besides.

> Assume good faith.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by FirmwareBurner on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @01:54AM (#44244578)

>Citation needed, and you're violating the HN guidelines besides.

You want a citation for my own opinion? Are you OK?

I explained my reasoning for the bad faith argument in the comment. Did you read it? Because there's no violation of HN guidelines to provide an argumented option.

> Assume good faith.

I assumed good faith, but then I used critical thinking and decided it's in bad faith then explained why. You don't need to agree with me on this.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by justsomehnguy on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:50PM (#44241307)

I can live another decade without an app what groups three options (one of it is "About") under a hamburger menu on a completely blank screen.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by pas on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @05:17PM (#44241553)

yes, who cares, let me launch apps and put widgets on the screen, what else?

I like a lot of the new features, but the visual (mis)communication language is terrible.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by dzikimarian on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @05:19PM (#44241573)

While I like new notification management or control buttons on top of the drawer, I really wouldn't have problem using them in Holo design.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by unethical_ban on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:09PM (#44242518)

The interface of Kitkat and the UI design is fine! It looks like what Apple is moving to.

Of course I want accessibility, security and technical improvements.

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by timewizard on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @07:58PM (#44242832)

Seems fine to me.

https://developer.android.com/about/versions/android-4.0-hig...

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Re:Android 16 Is Here by AndroidKitKat on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @08:46PM (#44243125)

If it was usable with the apps I need today, I would switch back to Android 4.4.2 or iOS 6.1.3 in a heartbeat. Not sure how long I would stay before the rose tint in my glasses returns to normal, but I would certainly love to try.

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