Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI

Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI by csomar on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @12:25PM (#44238664)

> As a counterexample, China's tech industry has caught up and in some ways surpassed the US, partially due to being closed off.

How did you come up to that conclusion? We don't have access to an alternate universe where the Chinese tech market was open. There is a real possibility that it would have been far ahead had it been open.

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Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI by yorwba on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @02:02PM (#44239549)

We do have access to records from the before times when the internet was wide open and Facebook, Google and Microsoft were big in China. Well, Microsoft is still big because they're not an internet company and unfazed by censorship, but the exit of Google and Facebook took a lot of pressure off Baidu and the entire Chinese social media ecosystem.

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Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI by olalonde on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @01:47AM (#44244546)

Facebook and Google were never big in China, not even close.

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Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI by yorwba on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @06:47AM (#44246192)

Google had 31% market share in 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8455712.stm I haven't been able to find numbers for Facebook.

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Re:Magistral — the first reasoning model by Mistral AI by olalonde on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @07:06AM (#44246303)

Don't have a source either but I was living in China back then and basically no one was using it. It was QQ and Renren.

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