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Re:Apple Announces Foundation Models and Containerization fr... by mmcnl on Monday June 09, 2025 @03:31PM (#44228415)
It's cool but also not as revolutionary as you make it sound. You can already install Podman, Orbstack or Colima right? Not sure which open-source framework they are using, but to me it seems like an OS-level integration of one of these tools. That's definitely a big win and will make things easier for developers, but I'm not sure if it's a gamechanger.
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Re:Apple Announces Foundation Models and Containerization fr... by rnubel on Monday June 09, 2025 @04:14PM (#44228924)
All those tools use a Linux VM (whether managed by Qemu or VZ) to run the actual containers, though, which comes with significant overhead. Native support for running containers -- with no need for a VM -- would be huge.
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Re:Apple Announces Foundation Models and Containerization fr... by mmcnl on Monday June 09, 2025 @05:11PM (#44229532)
Yes, it seems like it's actually a more refined implementation than what currently exists. Call me pleasantly surprised!
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Re:Apple Announces Foundation Models and Containerization fr... by SpaceNugget on Monday June 09, 2025 @05:23PM (#44229676)
there's still a VM involved to run a Linux container on a Mac. I wouldn't expect any big performance gains here.
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Re:Apple Announces Foundation Models and Containerization fr... by jemmyw on Monday June 09, 2025 @11:04PM (#44232045)
Still needs a VM. It'll be running more VMs than something like orbstack, which I believe runs just one for the docker implementation. Whether that means better or worse performance we'll find out.
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Re:Apple Announces Foundation Models and Containerization fr... by timsneath on Monday June 09, 2025 @05:35PM (#44229780)
The framework that container uses is built in Swift and also open sourced today, along with the CLI tool itself: https://github.com/apple/containerization
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