Re:Y Combinator pitch boosts Waterloo’s BufferBox
by Tichy on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:02AM
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If I understand it correctly, DHL has done something similar in Germany for at least ten years now.
It is OK - especially useful to be able to send away parcels in the middle of the night (the stations are used for both sending and collecting). Other than that, I ended up not using them much. Neighbors work better for accepting parcels. But I suppose for other people they are quite popular.
Ultimately I think DHL's play is to reduce the number of human powered post offices, so in the end Packstations will be a step backwards for user friendliness.
Re:Y Combinator pitch boosts Waterloo’s BufferBox
by jarek on Thursday August 23, 2012 @02:23AM
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Regarding chronology, FWIW, this is a final year project for a group in a class of 2011. The concept would have been developed in summer and fall of 2010 and a prototype implemented in winter of 2011. First mentions of Amazon lockers are from late summer/early fall of 2011.
Re:Y Combinator pitch boosts Waterloo’s BufferBox
by alexshye on Thursday August 23, 2012 @07:20AM
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That's great, but does that matter much? This isn't academic research where novelty is the key. They are trying to build a business, and there is clearly good potential for a business in this area. And at the very least, it will be good to have competition in this space.
Re:Y Combinator pitch boosts Waterloo’s BufferBox
by tsurantino on Thursday August 23, 2012 @02:09AM
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The argument is that Amazon controls 30% currently, so 70% is "fair game".
It's a pretty weak argument considering that Amazon has the infrastructure muscle out someone like Bufferbox, if there is no distinct competitive advantage for the startup.
Re:Y Combinator pitch boosts Waterloo’s BufferBox
by sojong on Thursday August 23, 2012 @10:38AM
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I think it depends on the agreements Bufferbox can get with the buildings. I'm not familiar with these types of agreements (eg Redbox kiosks, vending machines may be similar), but I can imagine that non-competes with multi-year terms are a possibility. Especially if Bufferbox itself will pay for the initial costs.
If that is the case, then Bufferbox is in a more defensible position.
Re:Y Combinator pitch boosts Waterloo’s BufferBox
by bmoggach on Thursday August 23, 2012 @02:11AM
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Amazon lockers offer a solution for Amazon only products. This is an open platform all carriers to use, in addition to the other 70% of eCommerce sales in Canada.
Re:Y Combinator pitch boosts Waterloo’s BufferBox
by rykov on Thursday August 23, 2012 @02:58AM
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For a long time Amazon fulfilled only their own products (and some large partners) from their warehouses. Now, it's offered to everyone as Fulfillment by Amazon service. No doubt Amazon will offer the locker service, if the market is there.
Re:Y Combinator pitch boosts Waterloo’s BufferBox
by bmoggach on Thursday August 23, 2012 @03:27AM
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You're right. Their marketplace model has been built out. Amazon's use of the locker system is an incredible opportunity and as exceptional validation of the technology.
It is OK - especially useful to be able to send away parcels in the middle of the night (the stations are used for both sending and collecting). Other than that, I ended up not using them much. Neighbors work better for accepting parcels. But I suppose for other people they are quite popular.
Ultimately I think DHL's play is to reduce the number of human powered post offices, so in the end Packstations will be a step backwards for user friendliness.
Edit: link to German DHL site about "Packstation" http://www.dhl.de/content/de/de/paket/privatkunden/packstati...
Edit 2: English Wikipedia says they started in 2001 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packstation
It's a pretty weak argument considering that Amazon has the infrastructure muscle out someone like Bufferbox, if there is no distinct competitive advantage for the startup.
If that is the case, then Bufferbox is in a more defensible position.
And of course, the open platform to all carriers.