Re:Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according ...
by tzs on Friday June 06, 2025 @11:33AM
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Your premise is incomplete. When someone posts illegal content on YouTube they are not liable if they are not aware of the illegality of that content. Once they learn that they are hosting illegal content they lose their safe harbor if they don't remove it.
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Re:Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according ...
by torstenvl on Friday June 06, 2025 @11:40AM
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Please don't post deliberately false information on HN.
Re:Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according ...
by tzs on Friday June 06, 2025 @12:54PM
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Let me rephrase, since saying they lose their safe harbor was a poor choice of words. The safe harbor does indeed prevent them from being treated as the publisher of the illegal content. However illegal content can incur liability for acts other than publishing or distributing and section 230's safe harbor won't protect them from that.
Re:Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according ...
by rolph on Friday June 06, 2025 @12:49PM
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i find it hard to believe there is any content on YT platform that they are unaware of.
Re:Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according ...
by p_j_w on Friday June 06, 2025 @01:20PM
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I mean what do you think happens? Do you think YouTube employs an army of people to watch and vet every single video that gets posted there?
Re:Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according ...
by rolph on Friday June 06, 2025 @01:32PM
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no i think YT uses an AI to categorize and vet media based on standard rubrick, at a pace that exceeds a human collective by orders of magnitude.
they know about it as soon as you post it.
Re:Self-hosting your own media considered harmful according ...
by overfeed on Friday June 06, 2025 @02:31PM
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The reason we're having this discussion this on this particular post because YT's AI is not infallible. There isn't a "standard rubric" - just automated correlation-based scoring derived from labeled training data. In this case, the AI learned that media piracy and self-hosted setups are correlated, but without actual judgement or a sense of causality. So YT doesn't truly "know" anything about the videos despite the AI augmentation.
I am curious what you consider to be a "standard rubric" - would that be based on the presence of keywords, or requires a deeper understanding of meaning to be able to differentiate the study/analysis of a topic versus promoting said subject.