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Re:Being fat is a trap by vorpalhex on Friday June 06, 2025 @09:43AM (#44200845)
You lack accountability to yourself. Read this comment you wrote:

> People should also talk about the volition trap. I'm 40 and it feels like I've had more than a life's worth of people talking about how "you can do it if you just try!"

"People should" instead of "I'm going to". "It feels like" instead of making a direct statement.

Nobody here knows your situation or why you formed the way you did. But also, it doesn't actually matter. We always want some deep explanation but understanding is often just a way of dealing with impotence.

Just do it. No excuses.

Re:Being fat is a trap by timcobb on Friday June 06, 2025 @09:45AM (#44200865)
> Just do it. No excuses.

This just sounds like you got brainwashed by Nike ("advertising signs that con / you into thinking..."). I'm not a person who makes excuses, and I'm not making excuses here. I'm not even obese.

I'm just observing phenomena. And the question I want to know is how is it that so many humans, who came this far evolutionarily, are all of a sudden so messed up? I mean, literally every single person alive today stands on the shoulders of giants. We are progeny of the winners, the tenacious, the survivors, the killers. What happened??

Re:Being fat is a trap by wiseowise on Friday June 06, 2025 @09:53AM (#44200947)
You live in an imaginary world.

> We are progeny of the winners, the tenacious, the survivors, the killers.

You are a progeny of a chance, nothing more.

Re:Being fat is a trap by timcobb on Friday June 06, 2025 @09:55AM (#44200964)
People who don't have the will to live die. And they usually don't procreate, especially under adverse conditions.
Re:Being fat is a trap by rickydroll on Friday June 06, 2025 @10:43AM (#44201443)
Whether you live under adverse conditions or not is essentially a matter of luck. It's a variant of the birth lottery problem.
Re:Being fat is a trap by Tadpole9181 on Friday June 06, 2025 @10:35AM (#44201359)
What happened? My morbidly obese coworker eats almost an entire pizza for lunch. That's really the whole thing summed up.

We allowed the normalization of incredibly calorie and sugar dense foods. We got kids hooked on the diet young. We made cartoons showing that kids hate vegetables while demonizing Michelle Obama got wanting good meals.

At some point, the social pressures got removed. Being severely overweight and eating more than a normal share stopped getting ridiculed. And then doctors started getting pushback because patients would rather giggle about their obesity and pretend it's okay than accept they're killing themselves. And those people fed that attitude to their kids, who are now dealt a losing hands when their parents raise them fat. Our culture's "iconic breakfast" is a bowl of milk filled with marshmallows and sugary carb bits.

But the unpleasant reality is that if my coworker just stopped ordering the pizza, they would start losing weight. It's hard, especially once in the hole, but everyone who isn't morbidly obese does that every day.