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Re:Meta and Yandex are de-anonymizing Android users' web bro... by bayindirh on Thursday June 05, 2025 @09:03AM (#44191317)
> Exactly. You need to infer that, it isn't stated directly.

I don't care. The site is doing something unusual. It's evident, it's enough to take a second look and think about it.

> Same like you need to guess, that "Unable to connect" means...

Again, as a layman, I don't care. As a sysadmin, I don't worry, because I can look into in three seconds flat. Also, Unable to Connect comes with its reasons in parantheses all the time.

We should think in simple terms.

Re:Meta and Yandex are de-anonymizing Android users' web bro... by 1718627440 on Thursday June 05, 2025 @09:56AM (#44191751)
> I don't care. The site is doing something unusual. It's evident, it's enough to take a second look and think about it.

Is it enough to do an informed decision?

> Again, as a layman, I don't care.

You do care, whether you mistyped or the network is down. I agree that you probably don't care to distinguish between "network unreachable" and "no route to host" though.

> As a sysadmin

True, but that information was already there and was thrown away.

Re:Meta and Yandex are de-anonymizing Android users' web bro... by bayindirh on Thursday June 05, 2025 @08:04PM (#44196732)
> Is it enough to do an informed decision?

With my layman hat, yes it is. I'll think about a trade-off between site's importance in my life, trustworthiness of the body behind the site, and my privacy.

> You do care, whether you mistyped or the network is down.

No I don't. Because it's easy to check for a typo, and then it's easy enough to investigate like layman. e.g.: Try going to Google, check for your (wireless) connection from your taskbar, every OS shows a "!" when internet is unreachable, and so on...

> but that information was already there and was thrown away.

Sometimes starting with a truncated but accurate info allows a way faster start. Precision and accuracy are different things, and accuracy is more important than precision.