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Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by tim333 on Thursday June 05, 2025 @08:34AM (#44191056)
They are attacking Hamas who are dedicated in their charter to destroying Israel as a state. Hamas is not a race.
Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by mandmandam on Thursday June 05, 2025 @08:50AM (#44191179)
Why wouldn't you do the least bit of fact-checking before making such an incorrect assertion?

> Over two-thirds of Israeli teens believe Arabs to be less intelligent, uncultured and violent. Over a third of Israeli teens fear Arabs all together

> 50% of Israelis taking part said they would not live in the same building as Arabs, will not befriend, or let their children befriend Arabs and would not let Arabs into their homes

> Another 2007 report, by the Center Against Racism, also found hostility against Arabs was on the rise. Among its findings, it reported that 75% of Israeli Jews do not approve of Arabs and Jews sharing apartment buildings; that over half of Jews would not want to have an Arab boss and that marrying an Arab amounts to "national treason"; and that 55% of the sample thought Arabs should be kept separate from Jews in entertainment sites. Half wanted the Israeli government to encourage Israeli Arabs to emigrate. About 40% believed Arab citizens should have their voting rights removed

Etc, etc. Many more examples can be found at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Israel

Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by tim333 on Thursday June 05, 2025 @12:17PM (#44193080)
There are plenty of arab Israelis not being attacked. They would probably attack people murdering them and taking hostages of any race.
Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by queenkjuul on Friday June 06, 2025 @04:48AM (#44198951)
They're just being denied access to public services, redlined out of neighborhoods, or exiled to the ever-shrinking West Bank.

Not being bombed, sure. Not being attacked, no. Socially, politically, they are.

Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by edanm on Friday June 06, 2025 @07:55AM (#44199926)
> or exiled to the ever-shrinking West Bank.

You're mixing two completely different things here.

Arab-Israelis (meaning Israeli citizens who are Arabs, which represents about 20% of the Israeli population) are not "exiled" to the WB, they don't live in the WB, they live in Israel, and are full citizens - no one can exile them anywhere.

There is some discrimination, sure, but in almost every respect they are equal citizens of Israel.

Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by queenkjuul on Thursday June 05, 2025 @02:33PM (#44194418)
Go read some of the things Israeli officials actually say about Palestinians. Go learn about what Israel is doing in the non-Hamas-controlled West Bank.

Sorry, you're just literally ignorant here. Likud and their ilk do not hide their true feelings, American media just doesn't like to bring it up

Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by edanm on Friday June 06, 2025 @07:52AM (#44199909)
> Go learn about what Israel is doing in the non-Hamas-controlled West Bank.

For the record, there is a lot of Hamas presence in the WB, even if it's not Hamas controlled. So if you are referring to government action in the WB, then it is aimed against terrorists.

If you're referring to what extremist settlers are doing in the WB, like setting Palestinian houses on fire and threatening violence and sometimes committing violence against Palestinians, then that's a different story. It's not official Israeli government action, but gets some tacit backing (and arguably a lot of tacit backing) from this government, and is absolutely heinous.

Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by tim333 on Friday June 06, 2025 @08:07AM (#44200012)
>you're just literally ignorant here

I may be less ignorant than you think - I've been to Israel four times and to Jordan and recently to Dahab in Egypt fairly close to Gaza. Lots of racial groups don't like each other but that's not really the issue here. Jordan won't have the Palestinians because when they let them in some of them tried to overthrow their government and Egypt are not keen because islamic terrorist groups, not actually Hamas but allied come over and machine gun tourists and try to overthrow their government. It's not because the arabs in those places are racist against arabs, it's that people don't like groups trying to kill and overthrow them. Similarly Gaza was reasonably peaceful until they October killings and kidnappings. Think of that in your own context - if some group came and started killing your people and trying to overthrow your government would you say that's hunky dory or try to do something about it?

I mention this not because I think the Israelis are good or anything but the kill some people and be surprised when they hit back strategy is not productive. If the palestinians want peace they should renounce that, release hostages and say we want peace. But most of the Palestinian demos I see are about "river to the sea" ie overthrow Israel, not asking for peace.

Re:Curtis Yarvin's Plot Against America by the_af on Friday June 06, 2025 @10:51AM (#44201508)
> Similarly Gaza was reasonably peaceful until they October killings and kidnappings

There's more history to Gaza and Israel's treatment of Gaza and Palestinians than the October killings.