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Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by sokoloff on Thursday June 05, 2025 @07:47AM (#44190676)
Captain A. G. Lamplugh, a British pilot from the early days of aviation once famously said “Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous. But to an even greater degree than the sea, it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect.”
Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by spankibalt on Thursday June 05, 2025 @09:47AM (#44191677)
> Aviation in itself is not inherently dangerous.

Yes, it is. Otherwise, "any carelessness, incapacity or neglect" wouldn't be so "terribly unforgiving".

Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by unethical_ban on Thursday June 05, 2025 @11:27AM (#44192606)
Agreed. It is like saying a tightrope isn't trying to harm you, just don't fall off.
Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by marcosdumay on Thursday June 05, 2025 @11:06AM (#44192402)
In car transit (like most things in life), you can do everything right and still die. In aviation, if you do everything right, you'll land safely.
Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by krisoft on Thursday June 05, 2025 @11:44AM (#44192790)
> In car transit (like most things in life), you can do everything right and still die.

Same with aviation. The DHL Flight 611 over Überlingen, Iran Air Flight 655, Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, American Airlines Flight 5342, Pan Am Flight 1736 are just the few easy ones which comes to mind immediately.

> if you do everything right, you'll land safely.

You. And the people who designed your aircraft. The people who maintain your aircraft. And the ATC. And other pilots. And the people on the ground operating anti-aircraft missiles.

Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by ephou7 on Thursday June 05, 2025 @11:19AM (#44192530)
The two pilots in the Tenerife aircrash would beg to differ.
Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by gambiting on Thursday June 05, 2025 @11:35AM (#44192693)
>> In aviation, if you do everything right, you'll land safely.

The pilots who died in the 787 MAX crashes would disagree. They did everything exactly as they were trained to do and still crashed.

Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by david-gpu on Thursday June 05, 2025 @12:15PM (#44193068)
> 787 MAX

You are thinking of the 737 MAX [0]. There is no such thing as a 787 MAX yet [1].

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner

Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by gambiting on Thursday June 05, 2025 @01:16PM (#44193658)
Yes obviously, sorry that was a typo.
Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by deepsun on Thursday June 05, 2025 @11:28AM (#44192616)
Yep, and how my instructor said, what's worse is that the sky can let you enjoy being careless 100 times and then punish.
Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by libraryatnight on Thursday June 05, 2025 @12:04PM (#44192968)
That's just life.
Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by HeyLaughingBoy on Thursday June 05, 2025 @03:38PM (#44195046)
Same thing with farmers: it's usually the old, experienced farmers who die in dumb ways. They've been doing the same dangerous thing their whole lives and become complacent until it catches up with them.
Re:Amelia Earhart's Reckless Final Flights by deepsun on Friday June 06, 2025 @03:16PM (#44204055)
Interesting, didn't know about farmers. Skydivers are the same, most accidents happen to experienced ones. But it's understandable, as adrenaline wears out with experience.

Pilots typically are trained against that complacency, plus, as they say, everyone can be stupid for 15 minutes a day, plan for that. I found piloting pretty boring, if done right. Talk about soul-crushing.