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Re:Cap: Lightweight, modern open-source CAPTCHA alternative ... by dogman123 on Friday May 30, 2025 @01:43PM (#44138406)
can someone ELI5 how these proof-of-work captchas work under the hood to detect whether i'm a bot or not?
Re:Cap: Lightweight, modern open-source CAPTCHA alternative ... by arp242 on Friday May 30, 2025 @01:47PM (#44138451)
They don't detect if you're a bot or not; it just makes it more expensive, the idea being that doing $action 10,000 (or more) times becomes much more costly for the attacker, preferably to the point where doing $action (posting spam, creating accounts, etc.) is no longer profitable. It's probably more useful to see it as a ratelimiter than a bot detection mechanism.
Re:Cap: Lightweight, modern open-source CAPTCHA alternative ... by Tadpole9181 on Saturday May 31, 2025 @09:30AM (#44144177)
Until, of course, the attackers reprogram their FPGAs and can solve challenges 10,000 times faster than a legitimate user. And since you can't request a user to have their phone toast itself at 100% load for 10 seconds, the attackers can solve it in micro/milliseconds for a sip of power.

Actually, this just uses SHA-256 hashing, which already has specialized CPU instructions (that browser WASM can't use) and ASICs.

I can't see how this isn't DOA?

Re:Cap: Lightweight, modern open-source CAPTCHA alternative ... by nout on Friday May 30, 2025 @03:41PM (#44139333)
They make it expensive to run large scale bots, so that deters the bots.

And they (probably?) use the computation power to crack passwords from people to let the government agencies access their accounts...

Re:Cap: Lightweight, modern open-source CAPTCHA alternative ... by prisenco on Friday May 30, 2025 @01:45PM (#44138434)
They don't detect if you're a human exactly. What they do is they create a calculation expense that is negligible if there's one of you but adds up quickly if you're running a bot farm that needs to send out 10,000 requests a second.

So I click the button, my browser does a quick proof-of-work, no big deal.

But an automated script will have to complete that proof-of-work every time it encounters it, skyrocketing the cpu costs for the server.