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Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by retnuhllort on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:33PM (#44100196)
Can someone explain the point of this article?

How does any of this matter unless 1. customers stop using this app or 2. all employees quit. Neither one is happening, especially the one where customers leave, because customers are not using this app as a form of charity to fund salaries of contractors.

Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by lazide on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:46PM (#44100337)
A lot of customers left.

And, typically CEO’s say things like this to try to scare/get leverage on employees.

Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by retnuhllort on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:57PM (#44100452)
Like at least 500? I'm sure that will hurt.
Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by minimaxir on Monday May 26, 2025 @03:53PM (#44101042)
Enough that the CEO had to do damage control, which is the absolute last resort for a PR disaster.
Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by retnuhllort on Monday May 26, 2025 @06:48PM (#44102356)
All ceos constantly do pr, and respond to media coverage. This is literally another just another day.
Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by lazide on Tuesday May 27, 2025 @04:12AM (#44104916)
Sure, and X nee Twitter is just doing better and better.
Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by retnuhllort on Tuesday May 27, 2025 @08:16PM (#44111740)
Don't get what you said. Is this about X if so I don't get the ref.
Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by BoorishBears on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:57PM (#44100455)
Not buying a lot of them left over this.

The reaction to their AI announcement doesn't feel organic at all with oceans and oceans of content creators flooding feeds with samesy half-deprecating bashes of them using AI.

I think for every person who genuinely was put off, even more either didn't care, or were using ChatGPT for language learning and would try it to see what they mean by an AI-first approach.

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And for anyone who thinks they'd never take that kind of bad publicity on purpose: this is the brand that "killed" their beloved mascot a few months ago and similarly managed to saturate multiple channels with creators bashing them for that.

This is straight out of the "stop hiring humans" playbook.

Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by watwut on Monday May 26, 2025 @05:16PM (#44101764)
I genuinely doubt so. The app did not changed at all. And more importantly, they experiment with limiting free users more - meaning they can afford loosing users.

Duolingo was also growing - both in terms of earnings and number of employees. They can afford some looses.

Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by sandspar on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:44PM (#44100322)
There's a group of news readers who dislike CEO's and dislike AI. Many of these people have also heard of Duolingo. "CEO of [company you've heard of] makes an AI mistake" is a surefire way to get clicks.
Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by zugi on Monday May 26, 2025 @03:29PM (#44100782)
That seems about right. Hacker News was once a more reasonable alternative to reddit, but these days sometimes it's reasonable, and sometimes it displays the same hive-mind reactions, depending on the thread.

The app is absolutely gamified, but I've never paid them a dollar, waste about 1.5 minutes a day ignoring ads, and in exchange for nothing I get moderately useful foreign language learning. The gamification keeps me at it, where past study approaches eventually petered out.

The use of AI in this and other tools is inevitable. The CEO certainly oversold it in his initial announcement, but the weird reaction of people stopping using the app because Due Lingo is going "AI first" seems inconsistent. Are people going to stop using Google, Meta, Microsoft, Amazon, and Nvidia because they're all-in on AI too?

Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by regularjack on Monday May 26, 2025 @04:05PM (#44101160)
It is not at all surprising to me that humans care about other humans. Only a minority of humans are sociopaths, fortunately.
Re:Duolingo CEO tries to walk back AI-first comments, fails by sandspar on Monday May 26, 2025 @07:36PM (#44102641)
Note that this reasonable comment about HackerNews groupthink has been downvoted to grey.