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Re:German court sends VW execs to prison over Dieselgate sca... by triceratops on Monday May 26, 2025 @01:53PM (#44099806)
And is treated as a criminal matter. But the manager telling employees to clock out before their shift ends is a civil matter.
Re:German court sends VW execs to prison over Dieselgate sca... by SoftTalker on Monday May 26, 2025 @04:19PM (#44101289)
Most often an employee caught stealing is just fired. If there's significant value involved perhaps the police would get a call.

Telling an employee to clock out and keep working is a labor law violation, that's not just a civil matter. It happens, but often with the agreement of the employee. I.e. "I know you're about to hit overtime, so if you clock out I'll give you cash, otherwise I have to send you home."

Re:German court sends VW execs to prison over Dieselgate sca... by triceratops on Monday May 26, 2025 @04:48PM (#44101538)
The point is the police will take a complaint in the case of employee theft.

And the "agreement" of the employee is utterly meaningless because it's not a negotiation between equals. Coercion is more accurate.

> labor law violation, that's not just a civil matter

So people go to jail over it? It goes on their criminal record and comes up in background checks?

> I'll give you cash

This part sounds like pure fantasy. And the cash would be less than overtime pay (otherwise why even make the offer) so it's still wage theft.

Re:German court sends VW execs to prison over Dieselgate sca... by exe34 on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @04:33AM (#44113897)
> if you clock out I'll give you cash

Yes, but on what planet?