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Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by Lutger on Thursday May 22, 2025 @04:12PM (#44066350)
It doesn't, but the sentence referred to wasn't really aimed at them. I mean, Mozilla could ditch its engine and adopt chromium in order to really focus on advertising, and then it would also support said features from an end users perspective! Somehow I have a feeling that won't earn Mozilla praise.

For all its flaws, Mozilla is actually the ONLY other company building a browser engine. When its gone, there will basically be only one left.

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by fuzztester on Thursday May 22, 2025 @04:38PM (#44066664)
what happened to opera?

i used it a good amount earlier, when it was relatively new, but then some issues happened, which I don't remember clearly, then i stopped tracking it.

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by Arrowmaster on Thursday May 22, 2025 @05:29PM (#44067278)
If you want old Opera look into Vivaldi. It's run by old staff from Opera pre sale.

Current Opera is owned by a Chinese company with ties to pay day loans and other shady behaviors.

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by lawrencejgd on Thursday May 22, 2025 @04:54PM (#44066864)
It's owned by a chinese company and uses Chromium
Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by fuzztester on Thursday May 22, 2025 @05:44PM (#44067442)
Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by kstrauser on Thursday May 22, 2025 @04:38PM (#44066677)
Have you forgotten Apple and WebKit?
Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by cptskippy on Thursday May 22, 2025 @05:28PM (#44067272)
Isn't Chromium a fork of Webkit which is a fork of KHTML?
Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by alwillis on Thursday May 22, 2025 @06:08PM (#44067680)
> Isn't Chromium a fork of Webkit which is a fork of KHTML?

Yes… 12 years ago: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/googl...

They are quite different now.

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by alwillis on Thursday May 22, 2025 @10:35PM (#44069350)
> For all its flaws, Mozilla is actually the ONLY other company building a browser engine. When it's gone, there will basically be only one left.

Safari's iOS/iPadOS global marketshare is about 33%; it's on 2+ billion devices. Definitely not going anywhere [1].

[1]: https://mycodelesswebsite.com/safari-statistics/

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by KingMob on Friday May 23, 2025 @06:10AM (#44071477)
> Definitely not going anywhere

Apple will happily let Webkit languish as much as possible to drive people to apps. They have every interest in getting that App Store cut, and none in extending the web with open, competing technologies. (* Maybe the recent app store legal rulings ill change things, we'll see.)

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by alwillis on Friday May 23, 2025 @01:36PM (#44074789)
> Apple will happily let Webkit languish as much as possible to drive people to apps.

Doesn't make any sense: why would Apple allow an app that's on 2+ billion devices to languish?

There's no evidence of WebKit languishing. If anything, the WebKit team has shipped important web platform features more quickly than it ever has before.

WebKit is arguably the most important framework for the App Store; many thousands of apps rely on it, including many of Apple's first party apps.

* first to ship <search> in Safari 17, September 2023

* first to ship :has in Safari 15.4, March 2022 [1]

* first to ship wide gamut color support [2]

* the only browser shipping support for JPEG XL

* so many new features shipped in Safari 18.4 it took 8,000 words to describe it all [3]

[1]: https://www.webkit.org/blog/13096/css-has-pseudo-class/

[2]: https://webkit.org/blog/10042/wide-gamut-color-in-css-with-d...

[3]: https://webkit.org/blog/16574/webkit-features-in-safari-18-4...

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by KingMob on Saturday May 24, 2025 @09:49AM (#44081127)
> Doesn't make any sense: why would Apple allow an app that's on 2+ billion devices to languish?

Because they can make more money on apps. Like I said in the parent comment you're choosing to ignore.

> There's no evidence of WebKit languishing.

It's pretty well-documented that Safari has been a laggard when it comes to web standards, cherry-picked links aside.

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by alwillis on Friday May 30, 2025 @12:01PM (#44137536)
> It's pretty well-documented that Safari has been a laggard when it comes to web standards

A few years ago, Safari being behind was a persistent narrative, which started because Safari didn’t support Chrome’s (often) nonstandard features.

These days, any important web features arrive simultaneously on Safari and Chrome (like CSS Grid) or within a month or two of each other… although it took 5 months for Chrome to ship :has in 2022.

Re:Mozilla to shut down Pocket on July 8 by airbreather on Friday May 23, 2025 @01:49PM (#44074910)
what about things like the browser object in Qt/PyQt?