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Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by ck2 on Thursday May 22, 2025 @11:51AM (#44063263)
one thing is for sure, the next world-war they are just going to take out every satellite in the first 5 minutes

the micro-debris will make orbits impossible for the next century

and that's assuming they don't use EMP from orbit to take out ground communications too like starfish prime

Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by RajT88 on Thursday May 22, 2025 @11:57AM (#44063329)
That is a better case scenario than immediate nuclear annihilation.
Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by ck2 on Thursday May 22, 2025 @12:37PM (#44063741)
I think there is a dangerous misunderstanding that the population of earth could survive even a small number of nukes being used anywhere on the planet

It would be a slow-moving but certain mass-extinction event

A single modern nuke is 30-80 times more powerful than Hiroshima

And then look at the socio-economic devastation of something like Covid

Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by staunton on Thursday May 22, 2025 @03:46PM (#44066021)
I guess you're talking about "nuclear winter", where the ash from the nuclear explosions gets into the upper atmosphere, blocks some of the sunlight and leads to a global famine.

I'm not sure what's "a small number of nukes" in your book. Last I read about it, estimates suggest e.g. India and Pakistan dropping their entire arsenals on each other would indeed cause a nuclear winter.

Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by nancyminusone on Thursday May 22, 2025 @01:48PM (#44064641)
Go look at the Nevada Test Site on Google maps. About 1000 nukes were set off there. Las Vegas is only about 100 miles away and by all accounts seems to be thriving.

In a nuclear attack, it's unlikely "we'll" be fine, but someone will be.

Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by ck2 on Friday May 23, 2025 @12:04PM (#44074039)
What on earth are you downplaying

There never ever has been an above-ground test of a modern enhanced hydrogen bomb in the USA

The Bikini Atoll test in the 1950s using 75 year old technology killed people via radiation over 130 miles away

Modern ICBMs carry several much more powerful warheads than that

Even a few of them would make life on earth a permanent hell like peak covid pandemic but forever

Even the "smallest" nuclear war would be one-and-we're-done event

Eventually some tyrant on their deathbed will do it though

Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by RajT88 on Friday May 23, 2025 @01:14PM (#44074621)
So hold on. You are saying Tsar Bomba would have potentially been an extinction event at ground level?

Holy shit.

Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by lupusreal on Thursday May 22, 2025 @12:20PM (#44063558)
That's nothing new really, late cold war wargames have satellites like the RORSATs playing a big role, and that's when anti-satellite weapon development really became a thing.

Low LEO will mostly clear out in a few years. And for really important satellites that matter a lot no matter what the cost, they can still be used. You just have to accept a higher rate of attrition.

Re:Mini-satellite paves the way for quantum messaging anywhe... by verzali on Friday May 23, 2025 @05:27AM (#44071302)
Probably easier at some point to simply target the primary ground stations and operations rooms.