News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Why does Debian change software? by lqet on Thursday May 22, 2025 @06:38AM (#44060677)
One of the many reasons I switched from Ubuntu to Debian 2 years ago. Another reason was snap.
Re:Why does Debian change software? by master_crab on Thursday May 22, 2025 @06:47AM (#44060733)
Yup. Snap is emblematic of all the complexity Canonical bakes into Ubuntu.
Re:Why does Debian change software? by hedora on Thursday May 22, 2025 @09:43AM (#44061991)
That and the whole systemd stack. Canonical employees had enough votes to force upstream it into debian.

I switched to devuan. It’s great, but it sucks that the community split over something so needlessly destructive.

Re:Why does Debian change software? by beerandt on Thursday May 22, 2025 @09:43AM (#44061985)
Between snap and having completely different network implementations between "desktop" and "server" versions really made me fall back down the learning curve of nix.

Especially since I was novice at best before the systemd thing, and my Ubuntu dive involved trying to navigate all 3 of these pretty drastic changes at once (oh yea and throw containers on top of that).

I went into it with the expectation that it was going to piss me off, and boy did it easily exceeded that threshold.