Are the policies I've laid out not explicitly discriminatory? You realize that outright denial of employment on the basis of gender was one of the policies I listed. If your strategy is to simply tell people to disbelieve their own lying eyes... good luck with that.

Not every inequity is the result of discrimination or bias. Should we strive to have a 50/50 gender split in murder convictions? A quota restricting murder convictions to 50% men would be an equitable policy but an explicitly unequal one as it'd require either men being let off or women being falsely convicted.

If DEI was carried through policies like anonymizing resumes and interviews, I'd believe the claims about how DEI is about reducing discrimination. Instead, all the DEI program I've actually seen firsthand have either directly discriminated on th basis of protected class, or incentivize people to discriminate (e.g. bonuses tied to quotas).

Yes I did in fact read your comment. Your kneejerk conclusion that I'm gaslighting you notwithstanding, you are presenting your personal observations as representative of some whole truth. I am challenging that.

I'm involved in hiring at my company, which is fairly diverse compared to my perception of the average. There are no quotas, only intentional processes that ensure everyone gets a fair shake.

As I said in my first comment, the nature of dog whistles is that some people use it innocently, without invoking the deeper context.

> ...only intentional processes that ensure everyone gets a fair shake.

Care to elaborate? The overtly discriminatory policies I listed above were supposedly just ensuring everyone gets a fair take. The language of "ensure everyone gets a fair shake," is no different than how my previous employers described our policy to restrict a segment of headcount to one gender.

If you're interested in non-anecdotal evidence on tech hiring bias, here's a few studies tracking applicants submitted to companies and universities:

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1418878112, the chart with the important data: https://www.pnas.org/cms/10.1073/pnas.1418878112/asset/fc20a...

Study on sending resumes to SV tech companies: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3672484, HN discussion on the paperhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25069644

Challenging that should not give you the ability to discriminate because any bias would apply to you in equal measure.

> one side has correctly identified a problem

There is no substance to this, you just believe your perspective to be superior. You could of course take a step back to let others take your place. Perhaps that would be convincing.