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Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by bjoli on Monday May 19, 2025 @06:12AM (#44028149)
I cane back to plasma after about year of gnome. It made me realize how much I dislike gnome. There are just so many issues. Inhad to solve them with extensions, but then it broke on updates. I couldn't get it to have English as language but ISO units.

I had to install an extra app to control startup applications.

Fractional scaling and several displays was wonky, made screen recording impossible. My 60fps display has a stuttery mouse pointer.

Hiding keyboard layouts like Swedish Sami or svdvorak didn't make things better.

Copy and paste not working cross screens (wtf?). Drag and drop not working if you switch windows using alt+tab. Context menus locking focus from the whole desktop: open the nautilus file transfer dialogue and suddenly I couldn't click anywhere else than in nautilus. Having it open and trying to interact with another app just wouldn't work.

At the end had accidentally tried KDE in a VM and realized I wouldn't tolerate a hammer behaving badly. I went back to opensuse the same day.

Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by qalmakka on Monday May 19, 2025 @08:48AM (#44029292)
GNOME has great software, nice UI, horrible UX. It's like as if the designers actively tried to make their software as opinionated and as castrated as they physically could
Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by skydhash on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:29AM (#44030910)
GNOME is nice, but only if you only GNOME. Any attempt to alter the linux ecosystem beneath will result in a lot of pain.
Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by masom on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:24AM (#44029620)
It's really sad what happened with Gnome3.

Gnome2 was a good functional desktop, sure it was copying the 2000s with windows 98/2000 style, but it worked. Hell, even OpenStep is more functional than Gnome3 as a daily computer interface.

Gnome3 targeted a weird mix of incompatible devices, like a windows 8 interface, and kinda failed as a design given the devices it optimized for never took over the market. There's not that many tablets running Gnome or touchscreen laptops anymore.

It's almost like Android took the design team by complete surprise, while they tried to make desktops a tablet experience, but failed at doing both.

Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by zozbot234 on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:22AM (#44030824)
> Gnome3 targeted a weird mix of incompatible devices, like a windows 8 interface, and kinda failed as a design given the devices it optimized for never took over the market.

I'm not sure about that. Convertible laptops are quite popular as a product category, and GNOME 3 works great on those. Besides, MATE and Xfce are still around if you prefer a traditional desktop interface.

Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by teekert on Monday May 19, 2025 @09:47AM (#44029877)
FWIW (not much) but I love Gnome3.
Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by zikduruqe on Monday May 19, 2025 @10:18AM (#44030190)
I have my Arch Gnome3 setup that resembles a tiling window manager... a la as demonstrated by Typecraft - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1kZd1f724U

I used to run Hyperland but was tired of constantly tweaking it... so this is good and easy enough.

Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by teekert on Monday May 19, 2025 @10:54AM (#44030546)
Nice, I still want to dive into Niri or PaperWM (Niri is inspired by PaperWM but more minimal, needs Wayland and written in Rust where PaperWM is a WM on top of Gnome).

I hear good things about COSMIC as well. But I'm too busy being productive at the moment to mess up my well working NixOS/Vanilla-Gnome based laptop :)

Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by mixmastamyk on Tuesday May 20, 2025 @12:06PM (#44043157)
It gets worse. I gave gnome a pass for years because, well it’s largely designed for touchscreen devices right?

Fast forward to 2024 I get a Linux tablet with gnome installed (phosh) and guess what? Not a single gnome video player exists that works well with the touchscreen, and many of the apps only work by keyboard!!

We lost so much in the transition, and they didn’t even bother to nail the supposed new use case. Gnome in itself is a complete failure, so far at least. Cinnamon and Mate are decent but suffer from GTK deterioration. Phosh seems to work well enough.

I like kde these days and have it on a machine, but every time I open the context menu on konsole I get upset because there are a hundred options in there. I want a simple menu.

Re:KDE is finally getting a native virtual machine manager c... by rascul on Monday May 19, 2025 @11:25AM (#44030852)
> I went back to opensuse the same day.

Such an underrated set of distros.