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Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by blibble on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @12:25PM (#43986400)
> I'm sure you can come up with a protocol where you can fan out access to the secret in a way that requires fanning back messages to you. But I don't see any clear way to do so that doesn't increase the communication burden on everyone.

the spec actually supports this, it's called caBLE

Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by taeric on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @12:51PM (#43986687)
Right, that flow seems somewhat straight forward and is roughly what I had in mind with my sentence. It doesn't really break you out of vendor involvement, though? You both still have to be fully in on the whole flow. Right?

Asked differently, how does this get a vendor out of the picture?

Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by lxgr on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @06:31PM (#43989859)
caBLE is not a specification for transferring secrets, but for mediating (temporary) access to them.

But the FIDO alliance is apparently working on that: https://fidoalliance.org/fido-alliance-publishes-new-specifi...

Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by taeric on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @09:37PM (#43990988)
I actually thought it was more for mediating confirmation of access to them. You don't share the secret with the new party, but you and the vendor both do a flow with them to confirm that someone claiming to be an identity can support that claim.