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Re:Paul McCartney, Elton John and other creatives demand AI ... by alganet on Monday May 12, 2025 @11:05AM (#43963870)
What a dilemma. Isn't it?

Fight for big copyright, or let it all be scraped?

It's not just about famous works now. We live in a gray area era. Every post on social media, tap on a keyboard, click, can be used to train AI.

Who owns that intelligence? It feels like AI products should acknowledge the names of billions of contributors. Common people, feeding the machine, mostly unknowingly.

So, copyright could be an unusual ally. It's often a villain for common folk, but again, we live in a gray area era regarding those rights. Copyright has a precedent with pedigree. Most scraped content is not famous songs and movies, it's random internet stuff.

We need to remember we want AI, but we also want good songs and movies for entertainment, and we also want to have our lesser works protected (internet banal stuff). There is a fine line connecting all that stuff somewhere.

Re:Paul McCartney, Elton John and other creatives demand AI ... by sceptic123 on Monday May 12, 2025 @11:20AM (#43964054)
Who actually wants AI though?
Re:Paul McCartney, Elton John and other creatives demand AI ... by senordevnyc on Monday May 12, 2025 @12:52PM (#43965068)
Presumably myself and the other 20 million people paying for ChatGPT alone, not to mention all the other AI products out there. And then the hundreds of millions using it for free. I'm guessing they all want it, but idk.
Re:Paul McCartney, Elton John and other creatives demand AI ... by sceptic123 on Tuesday May 13, 2025 @01:57PM (#43975777)
A tiny percent of the number of people on the planet though, and a much smaller number than the amount of people who's material has being sucked up without their consent or knowledge
Re:Paul McCartney, Elton John and other creatives demand AI ... by alganet on Monday May 12, 2025 @05:32PM (#43967651)
Scraping affects those who want and those who do not want AI, it's a commons issue.
Re:Paul McCartney, Elton John and other creatives demand AI ... by qwery on Monday May 12, 2025 @01:47PM (#43965684)
I don't see the dilemma. Content laundering as a service shouldn't be incentivised by the government.
Re:Paul McCartney, Elton John and other creatives demand AI ... by alganet on Monday May 12, 2025 @10:49PM (#43969284)
It shouldn't be incentivized by militias either. Nor the private sector, nor individuals. Take it as a non-discriminative observation, I don't care who does it, it risks leveraging a gray area and falling into illegality the same way.