Re:High-School Shop Students Attract Skilled-Trades Job Offers
by esseph on Sunday May 11, 2025 @03:49PM
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It takes time and experience to learn a skill, call it whatever the hell you want.
Re:High-School Shop Students Attract Skilled-Trades Job Offers
by kevinventullo on Sunday May 11, 2025 @04:09PM
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“Paying one’s dues” has a very different connotation to me than “Learning a skill.” The former suggests a tenure-based system of seniority and pay scales, rather than a meritocratic system based on skill level and actual output.
Re:High-School Shop Students Attract Skilled-Trades Job Offers
by ghaff on Sunday May 11, 2025 @04:57PM
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To me it just says you'll make less for a period while learning the ropes. I suppose there are situations where you need to be spending the time to empty the trashcans but I don't take it that way.
Re:High-School Shop Students Attract Skilled-Trades Job Offers
by esseph on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:15PM
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Skilled trades are physical, not software. They're not simulations. Iterations and experience require actual time.
Call it whatever you will, but you're only getting the experience by spending a large amount of time and cycles.
Signed, son of a carpenter than did 30+ years and then taught it to underprivileged youth.
Re:High-School Shop Students Attract Skilled-Trades Job Offers
by yupitsme123 on Sunday May 11, 2025 @08:48PM
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Even in the industries you're talking about you still have to pay your dues by building a client book, learning the industry, etc.
It becomes wasteful when advancement depends less on experience or intelligence and more on seniority or politics.
One thing I like about being closer to market oriented trades (or directly trading) is that your compensating is immediately based in the utility you provide. Like in financial services if you provide a service is based don the volume and your toll on that volume.
But yes if you dint have opportunities, like the knowledge, capital and flexibility to leverage it, then there’s entry level grunt work remaining.