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Re:'It cannot provide nuance': UK experts warn AI therapy ch... by 63 on Saturday May 10, 2025 @09:30PM (#43950487)
The implication was that the low salary selects for people who value helping people more than they value money.
Re:'It cannot provide nuance': UK experts warn AI therapy ch... by zahlman on Saturday May 10, 2025 @09:39PM (#43950535)
Indeed says that therapists in Toronto, Canada make about CAD $55/hour. That's not FAANG level nor what you'd expect for an MD, but it's not what I'd call low, either.

That said, I certainly don't see therapists as profiteering, in the sense of trying to convince people to pay for therapy they don't need. They might plausibly feel threatened by AI, but they'd absolutely be justified in calling out examples like those in TFA.

Re:'It cannot provide nuance': UK experts warn AI therapy ch... by yurishimo on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:38AM (#43953091)
$55/hr in Toronto… not to mention the overhead to pay for the building and support staff, the fact that you can’t bill for 40 hours per week, and the mentally demanding nature of the job listening to people’s mental shit all day.

Hot take: Therapists should earn more than most software devs.

Re:'It cannot provide nuance': UK experts warn AI therapy ch... by caseyy on Monday May 12, 2025 @01:07AM (#43959812)
Therapists are definitely the reason for many software devs not burning out. Or burning out slowly enough to earn a retirement.
Re:'It cannot provide nuance': UK experts warn AI therapy ch... by NikolaNovak on Monday May 12, 2025 @08:09AM (#43962076)
Hmm, how is that calculated? Therapist I'm currently seeing is $150/hour, on the outskirts of Toronto (cheaper cost of living / office space), and is empathically not on the high end of training (i.e. no PhD etc). I've never ever seen one below triple digits, so the notion of average, in Toronto, being $55 doesn't seem right.

Ahh, here we go; Indeed.com includes "Stretch Therapist", Occupational Therapist, Respiratory Therapist, Weight Gain Therapist, Massage Therapist, Care Co-ordinator, and everything else that includes the term "Therapist" in it.

Re:'It cannot provide nuance': UK experts warn AI therapy ch... by krainboltgreene on Sunday May 11, 2025 @01:05AM (#43951563)
The implication is that it's insane to simply apply a "everyone wants to grift from you" angle to anyone who as an expert without any evidence or analysis.
Re:'It cannot provide nuance': UK experts warn AI therapy ch... by mvdtnz on Sunday May 11, 2025 @02:44AM (#43951901)
I didn't say "grift". Of course therapists are going to warn you against technology that replaces therapists for a fraction of the cost, regardless of how effective it is. That's just human nature. There's nothing wrong with self-preservation, we just need to be on the lookout for it.
Re:'It cannot provide nuance': UK experts warn AI therapy ch... by m_fayer on Sunday May 11, 2025 @07:54AM (#43953166)
Given the incredible gap between demand and supply in many places, I think many therapists would welcome a stopgap solution for people on waiting lists or struggling with costs. And they would not feel their livelihoods threatened one bit. That is, if they trusted that stopgap to at worst do no harm.