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Re:Ghost students are creating an 'agonizing' problem for Ca... by xienze on Thursday May 08, 2025 @07:21AM (#43925088)
> If not, why are the schools sending aid payments sand ISIR? Or does CA run its own state-level aid programs that skip the federal forms completely (and botching the ID verification on their own)?

If I had to guess, this is probably to make the process easier for illegal immigrants, this being California and all.

Re:Ghost students are creating an 'agonizing' problem for Ca... by pixl97 on Thursday May 08, 2025 @02:40PM (#43929729)
I have a number of family members that work at different levels of government facing the public. Based on your rhetoric and their stories there's a high probability that you'd fall under the group I'd consider 'howlers'.

What is that?

The people that blame everyone else for problems without understanding any of the complexity of the system. Everything is some scary other persons fault. Then later they have to interface with the system after the laws they have promoted and they are aghast about how abusive the system has become.

I got to see this in person just a few days ago. I was renewing my license in Texas and had a stack of all the proper identification that I needed because I triple checked online on what I'd actually need. In front of me was an older gentleman that evidently had waited till the last day to renew his license. He didn't have any of the needed documentation, in this case his birth certificate. The clerk told him that unless he had that record he could not renew. He was all pissed and storming out and said "I bet it was the democrats that make us do that!".

It is this wild disconnect I see quite often where I see people that want others inconvenienced, you know people from other places or people that don't look the same, but proceed with shock when the rules apply to them also and start howling about it.

Re:Ghost students are creating an 'agonizing' problem for Ca... by xienze on Thursday May 08, 2025 @04:21PM (#43930897)
> He was all pissed and storming out and said "I bet it was the democrats that make us do that!".

If your story is actually true, that man is somehow oblivious to the fact that Democrats are the ones always bringing up the “it’s so hard to get a driver’s license! And racist to require one for anything!” arguments. I’m not sure how you’ve come to the conclusion that I want to inconvenience people out of spite. I’d like to inconvenience illegal immigrants from getting their education subsidized by citizens. California wants the opposite.

Re:Ghost students are creating an 'agonizing' problem for Ca... by pixl97 on Thursday May 08, 2025 @05:08PM (#43931383)
>If your story is actually true,

Go in an sit around any precinct courthouse or state document renewal facility in Texas in the lobby for a week and you'll see it multiple times a week. It's not some particularly rare occurrence.

The sovereign citizens are common too, and they really start howling commonly having to get escorted out.